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The Democrats are in office. They're killing people.<br>
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The Bush administration is gone. Obama is simply continuing and
expanding their killing. <br>
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You don't have to have faith in Tim Johnson. Just look at how he's
voting. He's voting against the killing.<br>
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Gill won't say that he'll do that.<br>
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On 10/18/10 7:00 PM, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
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type="cite">The outrage of Estabrook seems reserved for Democrats,
without regarding the very probable (consider what they're saying)
consequences of having Tea-Party types and/or Republicans
controling government. None of the execrable policies of the G.W.
Bush or Obama administrations are likely to be revised or
retracted. He has forgotten about the Bush administration?
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<div>The mania of the current campaign aimed at David Gill,
characterized as a stand-in for Obama, is perverse and contary
to what has come from statements and presentations of Gill.
It's remarkable how much faith Carl has in Tim Johnson.
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<div>On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:29 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> This is outrageous
special pleading. It says to return the Democrats to
office, even though they're the ones responsible for
"unnecessary deaths of people in wars from [Palestine to
Pakistan and from Central Asia to the Horn of Africa]."<br>
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Of course the Democrats are also responsible for not
extending Medicare to all, not taking over the
too-big-to-fail banks and companies and running them for
the public good, not stopping foreclosures, not
establishing an effective jobs program, etc., etc. - and
not by accident, but because they're working for the
banks, the insurance companies, the oil companies, the
construction companies, et al.<br>
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The Democrat’s allegedly reformist agenda masks programs
to ensure that no major stakeholder in his coalition of
corporate backers will suffer significant losses, and
will even enjoy spectacular gains — the perfection of
the long right turn of the Democratic Party since the
1970s, as financialization of the economy led to
shedding New Deal commitments so as to compete with the
Republicans for corporate patronage. <br>
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Reject the policies by not voting for them. Vote Green
or for individual legislators who e.g. vote against the
war, like Kucinich, Paul, or Johnson (IL). We'll still
have to settle accounts with the new Congress on war and
social legislation, whoever is elected. <br>
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Say to the Democrats what Cromwell said to the Rump
parliament: "Depart, I say; and let us have done with
you. In the name of God, go!"<br>
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On 10/18/10 4:50 PM, Ron Szoke wrote:
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The 'Teach-the-Dems-a-Lesson' Myth
By Robert Parry (A Special Report)
October 15, 2010
If my e-mail inbox is any indication, many American progressives plan
to use the Nov. 2 election as an opportunity to “teach the Democrats a
lesson” by either not voting or casting ballots for third parties, even if
this contributes to the expected Republican (and Tea Party) landslide.
The thinking seems to be that the loss of the congressional majorities
will punish the Democrats for accepting half-measures and compromises
on issues from health care and financial reform to job stimulus and war.
The Left’s hope apparently is that the chastened Democrats will then
shift toward more progressive positions and be more assertive.
However, modern American political history tells us that this strategy
never works. After the four key elections in which many progressives
abandoned the governing Democrats – in 1968, 1980, 1994 and 2000 –
not only did Republicans take U.S. politics further to the right, but the
surviving Democrats tacked more to the center and grew more timid.
All four elections also were marred by GOP dirty tricks that drew little or
no reaction from either the governing Democrats or the progressives,
emboldening the slash-and-burn Republicans to operate in an ever
more audacious style.
Tragically, too, the Left’s sideline-sitting contributed to the unnecessary
deaths of millions of people in wars from Vietnam and Central America
to Iraq and Afghanistan. Arguably even worse, U.S. inaction on global
warming – a neglect surely to be continued if Republicans and Tea
Partiers are victorious in Election 2010 – may doom the future of a
livable planet.
In other words, the “teach-the-Dems-a-lesson” strategy not only
doesn’t work, it’s extremely dangerous.
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