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The point is that Obama and the Democrats are not "up against it" -
they're part of it.<br>
<br>
The first Democratic president after WWII was advised that to get
his war and tax policies in place against the opposition of the US
populace, he would have to "scare hell out of the American people."
(Senator Arthur Vandenberg to Harry Truman; see the account by the
new president of the U of I, Michael J. Hogan, <i>A Cross of Iron:
Harry S Truman and the Origins of the National Security State,
1945-1954</i> [Cambridge UP 1998].) <br>
<br>
Truman and other American leaders deliberately misrepresented the
seriousness of the Communist threat in order to get Americans to
support a new world (cold) war immediately after the end of the old
one. Lacking Communists, poor Obama & Co. can demonize only
Teapartiers... Inshallah, they won't be so successful.<br>
<br>
On 10/19/10 9:26 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> Adding to Bob's post: I've read
several New Yorker articles about the<br>
> senate and what it actually takes to bring bills to a vote...
and<br>
> I've started reading OBAMA'S WAR and it's all eye-opening and
very<br>
> tuff going... because there's a whole enormous, entrenched
power<br>
> structure running things when it comes to how the gov't
actually<br>
> runs, both domestically -- by those who've been elected --
and wrt<br>
> foreign affairs (i e the war machine and the mindset that
keeps it<br>
> going) -- these are the people who haven't been elected,
whose names<br>
> we mostly don't know and never will... the CIA, the Pentagon.
Hate it<br>
> as we do, it's what we're up against, there are no simple
answers,<br>
> and the reality of this will scare the shit out of you.<br>
> <br>
> The Qs are: what's to be done about all this?? And would you
rather<br>
> take yr chances w/ Obama and the Dems or with the Repubs,
incldg the<br>
> Right wing nut jobs funded by the corporations... because
those are<br>
> yr real choices... And if you don't know that yet, you never
will<br>
> unless and until you educate yrselves about how things really
are,<br>
> and how much it will take to make even small positive
changes...<br>
> while it's taken so little to make huge negative ones
(Supreme Court;<br>
> Citizens United). --Jenifer<br>
> <br>
> --- On *Tue, 10/19/10, Robert Naiman
/<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com"><naiman.uiuc@gmail.com></a>/*<br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Robert Naiman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com"><naiman.uiuc@gmail.com></a> Subject:
Re:<br>
> [Peace-discuss] Punish the Democrats, yes To: "C. G.
Estabrook"<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu"><galliher@illinois.edu></a> Cc: "Jenifer Cartwright"<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com"><jencart13@yahoo.com></a>, "Ron Szoke"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:r-szoke@illinois.edu"><r-szoke@illinois.edu></a>, "Morton K.<br>
> Brussel" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu"><brussel@illinois.edu></a>, "Peace-discuss"<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"><peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></a> Date: Tuesday,
October 19, 2010,<br>
> 8:33 AM<br>
> <br>
> Perhaps it is that simple for someone who is as much of a
dogma-head<br>
> moron as Chris Floyd obviously is. For some people it is
simple that<br>
> "abortion is murder." This assertion merits as much claim on
our<br>
> attention as Chris Floyd's.<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:23 AM, C. G. Estabrook<br>
> <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:/mc/compose?to=galliher@illinois.edu"></mc/compose?to=galliher@illinois.edu></a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> "Friends, it's very simple: if you support Barack Obama and
the<br>
> Democrats -- even if reluctantly, even if you're just being
all<br>
> sophisticatedly super-savvy and blogospherically strategic
about<br>
> it... -- you are supporting the outright murder of innocent
people<br>
> who have never done anything against you or yours. You have
walked<br>
> into a house, battered down the bedroom door, put the barrel
of a gun<br>
> against the temple of a sleeping child, and pulled the
trigger. That<br>
> is what you are supporting, that is what you are complicit
in, /*that<br>
> is what you yourself are doing.*/"<br>
> <br>
> Full article at<br>
>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/2035-obamas-finest-hour-killing-innocent-people-for-qmade-up-crapq.html"><http://chris-floyd.com/articles/1-latest-news/2035-obamas-finest-hour-killing-innocent-people-for-qmade-up-crapq.html></a><br>
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