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<DIV dir=ltr>I liked David Green's article and found it to be instructive.
I will try to remember to go look at the comments.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>I also very much like this comment by Mort which I think really
encapsulates the situation quite well:</DIV>
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<DIV>What is to be done? Not easy to say. Unfortunately, the system is cooked
</DIV>
<DIV>so there are no immediately effective alternatives, no valid democracy,
</DIV>
<DIV>no real choice, no intelligent informed rising up of the
masses. </DIV>
<DIV>Without revolution, which is not around the corner, radical progressive
change </DIV>
<DIV>does not now appear possible given the powers that be. However, a change
</DIV>
<DIV>that may occur after 2010 or 2012 may indeed be radical, indeed
revolutionary, </DIV>
<DIV>but perhaps not the way many of us want. </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=ltr>Mort is certainly on target saying that their is a void of informed
intelligence in the uprising. My response to </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>"what ought to be done" is to Join the Tea Partiers and help
them gain understanding of the issues at hand.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>What is to be gained by ridiculing them, particularly when they
Agree with You about the Status Quo?</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>What good thing has happened in American Government since the
summer of 2008?</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>We didnt get McCain. That isnt a bad thing if we
consider that only. But what we got instead </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>is certainly not good. Although it could be argued
that our new executioner is a somehow lesser evil,</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>he seems more like a disingenuous form of evil as
compared with the straight-up evil of a McCain.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>The Tea Party is a ideologically diverse group. It is noted
that they are unintelligent, rednecky, gun-toters,</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>but that sure enough is not an accurate characterization. They
are using what they have. They are not</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>rich elitists and they aren't career politicians and they arent
conventional Republicans. They arent even</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>all of them Republicans. CNN noted in April 2010 that 40% of
those who identify with the Tea Party </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>say they are Democrats or Independents. Scott Bludorn carried
a great sign at the </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Chicago Tea Party -- "<STRONG><U>Republicans Suck
Too!"</U></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Note that the GOP elite, the Karl Rove/Newt Gingrich/et
al., Cookers of the System, the "Decepti-cons" hasn't exactly</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>embraced the Tea Party transformers. Note that Tea Party
candidates in the primaries ousted many who were backed</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>by the "mainstream" Republican machine and pissed off the
GOP. I agree that the GOP has tried to co-opt the</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Tea Party in much the same way as the Democrat Party co-opted the
anti-war movement.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Some of the original Tea Partiers who were Ron Paul supporters
consider the Tea Party to be</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>utterly co-opted. That just ain't so. Some say it's all
Astroturf. That also isnt' so.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Most of the donations for Tea Party Candidates come from small
amount donors. Look it up.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>The Banksters and the Corporations and the Military-Industrial
complex and Big Pharma isnt</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>backing the Tea Party.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>It really seems that "this is that which was spoken of by" Leonard
Cohen.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>It's coming through a crack in the wall;<BR>on a
visionary flood of alcohol;<BR>from the staggering account<BR>of the Sermon on
the Mount<BR>which I don't pretend to understand at all.<BR>It's coming from
the silence<BR>on the dock of the bay,<BR>from the brave, the bold, the
battered<BR>heart of Chevrolet:<BR>Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>It's coming from the sorrow in the street,<BR>the
holy places where the races meet;<BR>from the homicidal bitchin'<BR>that goes
down in every kitchen<BR>to determine who will serve and who will eat.<BR>From
the wells of disappointment<BR>where the women kneel to pray<BR>for the grace
of God in the desert here<BR>and the desert far away:<BR>Democracy is coming
to the U.S.A.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana>...I'm sentimental, if you know what I mean<BR>I love
the country but I can't stand the scene.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana><BR>And I'm neither left or right<BR>I'm just staying
home tonight,<BR>getting lost in that hopeless little screen.<BR>But I'm
stubborn as those garbage bags<BR>that Time cannot decay,<BR>I'm junk but I'm
still holding up<BR>this little wild bouquet:<BR>Democracy is coming to the
U.S.A</FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=ltr>Of course those in Power seek to stay in Power and the Cultural
Immune System seeks to destroy</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>and deactivate by any and all possible means those who are
perceived as Revolutionary to the Status Quo.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Let's turn the War on Terror upon the Real Terrorists.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Rather than fighting the Tea Partiers and its
Libertarian leanings, true meliorist progressives ought to be</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>saying --- </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>"That looks interesting. How can I help?"</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=mkbrussel@comcast.net href="mailto:mkbrussel@comcast.net">Brussel
Morton K.</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=davegreen84@yahoo.com
href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">David Green</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace Discuss</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Matt Taibbi:
Tea Party Parasites</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>David,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>You and your increasingly joined-at-the-hip partner Carl Estabrook are
becoming increasingly pathological. What is lacking in both of your
contributions is any sense of nuance or good sense. There is a kind of
bitterness apparent (to me) which goes beyond the issues discussed. I don't
know from where it comes. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Not all Democrats support Obama's foreign or even domestic policies, so
vituperation of Democrats (implying <I><B>all</B></I> who are so associated),
is ill-placed. They are not <I><B>all</B></I> in lockstep with Obama, although
many are. There are varieties of Democrats running for office.There are more
"anti-war-anti-occupation-anti-militarism-anti-corporatism types having
Democrat monikers than Republican. Yet that fact is ignored as being
irrelevant. It is as if we should all forget what transpired under Bush II .
Yes, Bush was/is a bogeyman for progressives. I would venture to say that
there are even worse types than Obama. At least he's for woman's choice to
determine her maternity. Estabrook's tirades against <I><B>all</B></I>
Democrats, against whom he emotes with un-Christian(?) virulence, and his and
your apologetics for the Tea Party (rationalized as a Democratic
conspiracy to take one's attention away from the evils of the Obama
administration and Democratic congress), a proto-fascistic phenomenon promoted
by the most reactionary elements, is to me malevolent.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>What is to be done? Not easy to say. Unfortunately, the system is cooked
so there are no immediately effective alternatives, no valid democracy, no
real choice, no intelligent informed rising up of the masses. See the
discussion on the UFPJ list-serve for an airing of all this. Without
revolution, which is not around the corner, radical progressive change does
not now appear possible given the powers that be. However, a change that may
occur after 2010 or 2012 may indeed be radical, indeed revolutionary, but
perhaps not the way many of us want. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>As for your article in ZNet, I am in sympathy with what Katie wrote in
response, and I have added my own harsh comment. I am not afraid to call
myself progressive or even liberal, even if those words and what they imply
are anathema to Carl and you. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>--Mort</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:47 AM, David Green wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Bob, this just really shocks me, I guess. Paul's
hypocrisy is allegedly to take money from the government whiling being
"anti-government." The hypocrisy of the "democratically-elected" Democrats
is to condescend to people who are "mad as hell" (for lots of good reasons,
although not often clearly articulated), and then drop bombs on Pakistan and
support Israel's behavior, etc. I'll take the hypocrisy of "the people" any
day, even someone is problematic as Rand Paul. For you to play the McVeigh
card is dishonest and utterly reprehensible. How did you feel about the
government dropping a bomb in Waco?</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Robert Naiman <<A
href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>E.Wayne Johnson <<A
href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Peace-discuss List <<A
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Tue, October 19, 2010 8:28:18
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Peace-discuss] Matt Taibbi:
Tea Party Parasites<BR></FONT><BR>Cheap shot? It is an essential fact to
understand. Someone who is a<BR>darling of the "anti-government" Tea Party
Right is taking government<BR>money as a major source of their income. This
is a key fact that<BR>people should know in evaluating whether the Tea Party
offers a<BR>political alternative that progressives should have sympathy
for.<BR><BR>Most people who count themselves progressive could never agree
to your<BR>claim that just because a group of people are "mad as hell about
the<BR>status quo" we should count ourselves among their number.
Timothy<BR>McVeigh was "mad as hell about the status quo." In a showdown
between<BR>the fellow travelers of Timothy McVeigh and the
democratically-elected<BR>government, I will be on the side of the
democratically-elected<BR>government.<BR><BR>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:49
PM, E.Wayne Johnson <<A href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag"
ymailto="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</A>> wrote:<BR>> I like the
way that Matt Taibbi points out many ills in the society<BR>> generally
without compromise.<BR>><BR>> Matt Taibbi rightly points out the
hypocrisy, and I am not a big fan<BR>> of Rand Paul (he ain't Ron), it is
a pretty cheap shot saying that an eye<BR>> doctor<BR>> has a blind
spot in his ideology because he treats patients who are<BR>> funded by
government programs.<BR>><BR>> The Tea Party is a highly diverse group
of people who are mad as hell about<BR>> the status quo.<BR>><BR>>
We all ought to be Tea Partiers on that account.<BR>><BR>> The Powers
That Be in both parties hate and fear the Tea Party.
.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Robert Naiman" <<A href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:43 PM<BR>> Subject: [Peace-discuss]
Matt Taibbi: Tea Party Parasites<BR>><BR>><BR>><SPAN
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target=_blank>http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/matt-taibbi/blogs/TaibbiData_May2010/218982/83512</A><BR>><BR>>
October 12, 2010 4:16 P.M. EDT | By Matt Taibbi<BR>><BR>> More Tea
Party Hilarity<BR>><BR>> Quelle surprise! So it turns out that one
after another of the Tea<BR>> Party candidates is in one way or another
mooching off the government.<BR>> The latest series of hilarious
disclosures center around Alaska’s<BR>> GI-Joe-bearded windbag Senatorial
candidate, Joe Miller, who appears<BR>> to have run virtually the entire
gamut of government aid en route to<BR>> becoming a staunch, fist-shaking
opponent of the welfare state.<BR>><BR>> Miller’s pomposity and piety
with regard to government aid programs<BR>> has all along been in line
with the usual screechingly hysterical<BR>> self-righteousness Tea Party
candidates bring to such matters, railing<BR>> against Obamacare and
other “entitlement” programs and promising to<BR>> end the “welfare
state.” That makes it all the more delicious now that<BR>> he and his
family have been exposed for taking state medical aid,<BR>> unemployment
insurance, farm subsidies, hell, even for using state<BR>> equipment to
run a private political campaign.<BR>><BR>> Back in June, Miller was
saying this about his Republican primary<BR>> opponent Lisa Murkowski,
blasting her for supporting a state health<BR>> care
program:<BR>><BR>> As you are aware, just last week the Anchorage
Daily News reported<BR>> that the Denali KidCare Program funded 662
abortions last year.<BR>> Senator Murkowski has been a champion of this
program, voting against<BR>> the majority of her Republican colleagues
for CHIPRA (HR 2) in January<BR>> of 2009.<BR>><BR>> Of course it
now turns out that back in the Nineties, Miller himself<BR>> and his
three children (with one on the way; he now has eight) were at<BR>> one
point receiving assistance via a program almost exactly like the<BR>>
Denali KidCare program, which is only for low-income earners.
Various<BR>> reports note that Miller received this assistance after he’d
bought a<BR>> house and been hired by a prestigious law firm; he also got
low-income<BR>> hunting and fishing licenses during that time. It’s also
come out that<BR>> he received some $7,000 in farm subsidies and that his
wife received<BR>> unemployment insurance benefits.<BR>><BR>> So
now of course Miller, who said he and his family “absolutely” used<BR>>
Alaska’s state medical program, is backtracking and saying that he’s<BR>>
not against the modern Denali Kidcare program, only against the<BR>>
“expansion” of it. But even more telling was his longer answer about<BR>>
the program, as reported in the Anchorage Daily News:<BR>><BR>> Miller
said what he's advocating is complete state control of the<BR>> programs.
"That doesn't mean we cut off the programs. That is<BR>> ultimately a
state decision. And I think there is a use; in fact the<BR>> most
effective use is probably those programs that help transition the<BR>>
populations from more of a situation of dependency" to one where
they<BR>> can be economically independent, Miller said.<BR>><BR>>
You see, when a nice white lawyer with a GI Joe beard uses state aid<BR>>
to help him through tough times and get over the hump – so that he
can<BR>> go from having three little future Medicare-collecting
Republican<BR>> children to eight little future Medicare-collecting
Republican<BR>> children – that’s a good solid use of government aid,
because what<BR>> we’re doing is helping someone “transition” from
dependency to<BR>> economic independence.<BR>><BR>> This of course
is different from the way other, less GI-Joe-looking<BR>> people use
government aid, i.e. as a permanent crutch that helps<BR>> genetically
lazy and ambitionless parasites mooch off of rich white<BR>> taxpayers
instead of getting real jobs.<BR>><BR>> I can’t even tell you how many
people I interviewed at Tea Party<BR>> events who came up with one
version or another of the Joe Miller<BR>> defense. Yes, I’m on Medicare,
but… I needed it! It’s those other<BR>> people who don’t need it who are
the problem!<BR>><BR>> Or: Yes, it’s true, I retired from the
police/military/DPW at 54 and<BR>> am on a fat government pension that
you and your kids are going to be<BR>> paying for for the next forty
years, while I sit in my plywood-paneled<BR>> living room in Florida
watching Fox News, gobbling Medicare-funded<BR>> prescription
medications, and railing against welfare queens. But I<BR>> worked hard
for those bennies! Not like those other people!<BR>><BR>> This whole
concept of “good welfare” and “bad welfare” is at the heart<BR>> of the
Tea Party ideology, and it’s something that is believed<BR>> implicitly
across the line. It’s why so many of their political<BR>> champions, like
Miller, and sniveling Kentucky rich kid Rand Paul (a<BR>> doctor whose
patient base is 50% state insured), and Nevada “crazy<BR>> juice” Senate
candidate Sharron Angle (who’s covered by husband Ted’s<BR>> Federal
Employee Health Plan insurance), are so completely<BR>> unapologetic
about taking state aid with one hand and jacking off<BR>> angry
pseudo-libertarian mobs with the other.<BR>><BR>> They genuinely don’t
see the contradiction, much in the same way that<BR>> some Wall Street
people genuinely can’t see the problem with their<BR>> company, say,
taking $13 billion in bonuses in the same year that they<BR>> accepted
$13 billion in state bailouts. You wave a pitchfork at them<BR>> with
little post-its of the relevant figures taped to the ends, and<BR>> ask
them to confess – and they can’t, because they literally don’t see<BR>>
your point.<BR>><BR>> After all, these bankers will protest, we needed
to pay out those<BR>> billions in bonuses to stay competitive! It’s not
like we’re just<BR>> taking the money willy-nilly, like those dreadful
people in ratty army<BR>> coats who shop with food stamps in the bodega
downstairs!<BR>><BR>> The rationalization continues: If I can’t help
my department heads buy<BR>> Porsches, they say, the whole system
collapses, and the system is<BR>> what’s important. It’s not like simply
handing out money to people who<BR>> can’t pay their mortgages, which of
course is real waste. As Berkshire<BR>> Hathaway investment titan Charles
Munger put it, it’s those people who<BR>> have to “suck it in and cope.”
But bailouts for companies like the<BR>> ones Munger invests in, like
Wells Fargo and Goldman, that’s<BR>> preserving the system – and we
should all “thank God” for that kind of<BR>> state aid.<BR>><BR>>
The reason these arguments are inherently ridiculous is that if you<BR>>
live in America, you have a pretty good chance of being in some way
or<BR>> another dependent upon government aid. Whether it’s aerospace
or<BR>> military contracting or farm subsidies or grants in academia,
medicine<BR>> or the arts… most of us are in some way living off of this
spending,<BR>> directly or indirectly. Defense spending in particular has
been a<BR>> primary engine of American capitalism for more than half a
century<BR>> now. And government subsidies of agriculture and financial
services<BR>> have begun to rival defense largesse.<BR>><BR>> All
of which would normally make it unfair for any journalist to go<BR>>
after a politician for taking government aid. After all, pretty much<BR>>
everybody has in some way or another lived off the government in his<BR>>
life – whether by working in a firm that takes government contracts,<BR>>
or attending a state school, or getting into a college thanks to<BR>>
affirmative action programs, or serving in the military or law<BR>>
enforcement, or collecting Medicare or food stamps or
unemployment.<BR>><BR>> But these Tea Partyers make themselves fair
game with their<BR>> preposterous absolutist stance on government. If you
call Obamacare<BR>> radical socialism and unemployment insurance a
parasitic welfare state<BR>> program—well, guess what, asshole, you’re
going to get rung up when we<BR>> find out you had your whole family
living off state medical aid and<BR>> farm subsidies.<BR>><BR>>
Even beyond that, though, is the way that Tea Party candidates and<BR>>
activists demonize the consumers of “entitlement” programs, branding<BR>>
them as lazy parasites who are taking from hard-working folk by<BR>>
supporting “redistributionist” politicians. You probably heard about<BR>>
the story of David Jungerman, the Kansas farmer who created a<BR>>
billboard that read as follows:<BR>><BR>> ARE YOU A PRODUCER OR A
PARASITE?<BR>><BR>> DEMOCRATS – THE PARTY OF PARASITES<BR>><BR>>
Of course it now turns out that Jungerman himself took over a
million<BR>> dollars in farm subsidies since 1995. When asked about
the apparently<BR>> contradiction, Jungerman offered the Miller
defense:<BR>><BR>> “That’s just my money coming back to me,”
Jungerman, 72, said Monday.<BR>> “I pay a lot in taxes. I’m not a
parasite.”<BR>><BR>> In Tea Party legend the “parasites” would I
suppose be people who<BR>> don’t pay taxes, or pay few taxes, and receive
government support in<BR>> excess of what they pay. Maybe they mean the
39-odd million Americans<BR>> (about 1 in 8) who are now receiving food
stamps. In the Hobbesian<BR>> jungle the Tea Partyers would prefer we all
live in, it’s true, most<BR>> of those 39 million people (including the
just under 50% of all<BR>> children, and 90% of black children, who will
at some point in their<BR>> lives eat a meal bought with food stamps)
would indeed be sucking wind<BR>> instead of eating
cheese.<BR>><BR>> These are the parasites they’re probably talking
about. You know,<BR>> children. Meanwhile, a slick grownup yuppie
politician with a GI Joe<BR>> beard and a breeder wife and eight kids,
leeching off the state at<BR>> every turn and gunning for a U.S. Senate
salary and pension on an<BR>> anti-welfare platform, he’s just a
hardworking citizen who simply<BR>> needed a lift during a “transitional”
period. Man, did they break the<BR>> mold when they made these
assholes.<BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Robert Naiman<BR>> Policy
Director<BR>> Just Foreign Policy<BR>><SPAN
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ymailto="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR>><BR>>
Urge Congress to Support a Timetable for Military Withdrawal from<BR>>
Afghanistan<BR>><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern"
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