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On 10/21/10 9:50 PM, E.Wayne Johnson wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What does it mean? don't
mean...........</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The conclusion that mr. crumb
came to in his usual irascible skepticism and analysis of the
</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">human situation and the personal
war on existential terror was that the most important thing </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">and the most useful thing was to
do nothing.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">By the way, a correction and
apology.. Although the "Ruff-Tuff Cream-puff" made his debut
in "Despair" (1969),</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">the "Kick Their Ass Take Their
Gas" mantra appeared in "<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The
Ruff-Tuff Cream-Puffs Take Charge</font>", </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">"Hup No. 1" (1987), </font><font
face="Arial" size="2">also reprinted in "R. Crumb's America".</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">From Mystic Funnies #2 (1999):</font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October
21, 2010 11:49 PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fw: Money Can't Vote</div>
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<div>Huh! That's a strange take. The quote I've been using
lately is: "The surest way for evil to triumph is for good
people to do nothing." To each his own, I guess.<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> C. G.
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Gregg
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Thu, October 21, 2010 10:33:50 AM<br>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fw: Money Can't Vote<br>
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That bumpersticker mantra is older than you imagine.<br>
<br>
"Kick their ass! Take their Gas!" was on the t-shirt of
the horn-tooting protagonist in R. Crumb's "It's the Ruff
Tuff Creampuff", <br>
<br>
(who appeared in [Fall into the Depths of] Despair Comix,
1969)<br>
<br>
"The best solution anyone has found is to sit and do
nothing".<br>
<br>
On 10/21/2010 11:08 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">That quite remarkable contempt for
the political perspicacity of your fellow citizens is
all too typical of the political class in this country,
but it's not very democratic. <br>
<br>
The federal government doesn't quite agree with you.
That's why it spends so much time and money on "the
manufacture of consent" (and why snake-oil salesmen like
Obama get ahead). The public has to be managed, not
indulged, they think - it's their only real enemy, as
Vietnam showed.<br>
<br>
That after all was Jefferson's view: he thought that
people "are naturally divided into two parties: (1.)
Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw
all powers from them into the hands of the higher
classes. (2.) Those who identify themselves with the
people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider
them as the most honest and safe, although not the most
wise depositary of the public interests."<br>
<br>
I'm a democrat, so not a Democrat. --CGE<br>
<br>
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On 10/21/10 9:51 AM, Gregg Gordon wrote:
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<div>I don't disagree with any of that. So what?
And as for wars for oil, maybe you better hope
they <em>keep</em> lying about it, because if
Americans were confronted with that stark reality,
most of them might be down with it. When Alan
Greenspan said so publicly, there was no big
outcry. Barely lasted a full news cycle. I
remember seeing a bumper sticker when the Iraq war
started: "Kick their ass. Take their gas." I
think that's basically where most Americans are on
the issue, and the main reason the Iraq war has
become so unpopular (people were 2-1 in favor at
the time, if the polls can be believed) is that
the cheap gas never materialized. We're still
paying through the nose. Most people support
resumed drilling in the Gulf right now. They
don't care if it turns into the Rancho La Brea tar
pits. They want gasoline for their cars. I saw a
poll just within the last week -- can't remember
exactly, but something like, would you be willing
to pay an additional 4 cents a gallon for, I don't
know -- lower CO2 emissions or something. The
majority said, "No." So that's where you need to
start -- not with the Democrats. I think the
Democrats are about the left party that the
American left deserves right now. We've
been ineffectual and inept. That's our reward.<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Thu, October 21, 2010 9:03:01 AM<br>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fw: Money Can't
Vote<br>
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On the Carter administration, see the famous
interview his National Security Adviser gave to
Le Nouvel Observateur in 1998: <a
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(in English)...<br>
<br>
"Q: And neither do you regret having supported
the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms
and advice to future terrorists?<br>
"B: What is most important to the history of the
world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet
empire? <i>Some stirred-up Moslems</i> [sic] or
the liberation of Central Europe and the end of
the cold war?..."<br>
<br>
It's true that the US has been committing crimes
in order to control Mideast oil since the Truman
administration, when we saw that we could
displace an exhausted Britain in the region.
First, British oil companies were replaced with
American ones, and concomitantly the US began
the policy - which Obama continues - of
controlling the countries of the region by
alliance, subversion, or aggressive war (= what
we were busily condemning German leaders for, at
Nuremberg). <br>
<br>
Benchmarks are our destruction of democratic
government in Iran (1953), which Americans have
forgotten but the Iranians haven't; adoption of
Israel as our "cop on the beat" (as the Nixon
administration said) after they launched their
1967 war to destroy secular Arab nationalism;
our sponsorship of Saddam Hussein in the
Iraq-Iran war, 1980-88; our covert sponsorship
of the religious-based Hamas to undercut the
secular PLO; and Clinton's murderous sanctions
on Iraq (by which he killed as many people as
Bush did, many of them children whose deaths
were "worth it," according to Clinton's
Secretary of State).<br>
<br>
The US has consistently demanded control of
Mideast energy resources since WWII, not because
we need them - the US was a net exporter of oil
until recently, and now imports less than 10% of
the oil we use at home from the Mideast, mostly
from our ally Saudi Arabia - but because control
of world hydrocarbon supplies gives us an
advantage over our real economic rivals, the EU
and East Asia (China and Japan). That's what
Obama (and other presidents) is sending
Americans to kill and die for, so it's obvious
that he like the others has to invent excuses,
especially when two-thirds of the US public,
even though they're being lied to, thinks the
war a bad idea. <br>
<br>
When Al Qaeda launched their criminal raids on
US cities in 2001, they were clearly and
consciously staging a counter-attack to more
than a generation of US crimes in the Mideast.
They said at the time that there were three
reasons for their counterattack: (1) the
sanctions on Iraq, called "genocidal" by
successive UN overseers; (2) the suppression of
h the Palestinians by America's chief client,
Israel; and (3) the occupation of Saudi Arabia
(and the Muslim holy places) by American troops
after Bush I's Gulf war, in 1991. <br>
<br>
It's not just those who point out that the Obama
administration is, by and large, Bush's third
term who note the continuity of US policy in the
Mideast, which Obama if anything has intensified
- as he said he would, as far back as his
campaign for the Senate, when he discussed
"surgical strikes" on Iran, still I think a real
possibility, along with open war with Pakistan.
BHO is down with the program, and only a few are
criticizing it - of course many more in the
country that in Congress.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/21/10 8:05 AM, Gregg Gordon wrote:
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york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div>Well, that strikes me as quite a
stretch to lay responsibility for the Iraq
and Afghanistan wars on the back of Jimmy
Carter. I could take your logic just a
small step further and put it on FDR. Or
William McKinley. Or James K. Polk. Plus
it ignores the question of why three
subsequent Republican presidents failed to
end it, as your premise indicates they
should have done. It is a sad fact that
since the disastrous and misguided
McGovern campaign (God bless him),
Democrats have been so bullied and
intimidated by charges of being
anti-military (not that there's anything
wrong with that) that they too often feel
compelled to prove they have gonads. I
thought Clinton kept Saddam around just to
have somebody to bomb when he needed to
look tough. That's murderous and
deplorable and certainly won't get him
into heaven, but that's the political
landscape we find ourselves in. Deal with
it. Anyway, wealth and power breed
arrogance. Americans, like the British,
Spanish, Romans, and every great empire
before us, think we should have our way
just because God obviously loves us
so. (If He didn't, we wouldn't be an
empire.) That's human nature, and
liberals are just as susceptible to it as
conservatives. More often than not,
Democratic militarism just takes the form
of seeing to it that veterans actually
receive the benefits they've been
promised, for which they get no credit
whatsoever. And "spineless" is not the
same as "evil" in my eyes. The
"spineless" need to be encouraged. The
"evil" need to be stopped. Who can blame
the Democrats for being spineless? Who's
got their backs? The left?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I'm a Bernie Sanders kind of guy. I
don't really consider myself a Democrat,
but I caucus with them because I think the
alternative is so much worse. But if you
<em>really</em> can't see <em>any</em>
difference between, say, Karl Rove and
Dennis Kucinich, I'm not going to waste
any more time arguing with you. You're
not serious.<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Wed, October 20, 2010 11:09:24 PM<br>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fw: Money
Can't Vote<br>
</font><br>
First, Iraq and Afghanistan are both
part of what the Pentagon calls "The
Long War" (for oil) in the Mideast. So
far, the US has killed a million people
in Iraq under Clinton (whose Secretary
of State said that the tens of thousands
of dead children were "worth it"); a
million under Bush; and apparently
hundreds of thousands in AfPak under
Bush and his third (Obama) term.<br>
<br>
That falls short of the perhaps 4
million we killed in SE Asia, but of
course Obama's escalated murders in SW
Asia are in no way justified by being
fewer in number than
Kennedy-Johnson-Nixon's in Vietnam. <br>
<br>
It's difficult to determine when the
Long War begins, but it takes a tick up
in the Carter administration when Carter
(and Obama's) adviser Zbigniew
Brzezinski sends Osama bin Laden and
friends into Afghanistan (before the
Russian invasion) "to give the Russians
a Vietnam of their own," as he said at
the time, in the most expensive CIA
operation to date.<br>
<br>
If a Republican administration after
2012 brings Obama's AfPak war to an end,
then we'll have a third example of a
Democratic war concluded by Republicans
in as many generations. But that may not
be likely. The news suggests that the
Obama administration is looking to
expand the war with an attack on
Pakistan and/or Iran. It certainly
isn't looking to abandon the world's
greatest energy-producing region.<br>
<br>
Control of Mideast energy resources has
been a cornerstone of US foreign policy
since 1945. Obama is simply lying when
he says the war is to "stop terrorism" -
it obviously increases terrorism - but
he has to lie, because the only
Constitutional authority he has to wage
war in the Mideast is Congress'
"Authorization for the Use of Military
Force" of September 2001 - which is
directed against terrorism. <br>
<br>
Something positive to do: years ago,
there was a great debate in America,
"How do we get out of Vietnam?" The
best answer was given by Herb Caen:
"Ships and planes." Load up the troops
and bring them home. The Russians did -
and survived and prospered from the end
of their war.<br>
<br>
Eventually we did, but it took two
presidents' being driven from office and
(even more important) a revolt of the
American conscript army to do it. <br>
<br>
Regards, CGE<br>
<br>
On 10/20/10 7:15 PM, Gregg Gordon wrote:
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<div>So I conclude from your
statement that you don't consider
either Iraq or Afghanistan to be
"major" wars. So why are you so
worked up about them? I think
you're just still mad at Lyndon
Johnson.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>And please, don't accuse me of
being some kind of racist who
doesn't mind us murdering brown
people. That is <em>so</em>
lame. It's just that not all of
us see the world in as simple
terms as you seem to. Simple
solutions are nice, but they're
mainly for the simple-minded.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>All I'm saying is if you're so
gung-ho on stopping the war, why
don't you come up with
something positive to do (as
opposed to sniping from the
sidelines) that might help get us
closer to that goal? We'll all
get behind you.<br>
</div>
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PM<br>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace]
Fw: Money Can't Vote<br>
</font><br>
You are aware, are you not, that
America's major wars since WWII
- called by synecdoche "Korea"
and "Vietnam" - were started by
Democratic administrations and
ended by Republican
administrations. Since the
current Democratic
administration has greatly
expanded the killing in AfPak,
it's hard to argue that they're
going to reverse their policies.
Voting for them is an
acquiescence to those policies.
<br>
<br>
To say of Obama and the
Democrats, "Let them kill some
Asians, because they might do
some good someplace else," is at
best a counsel of despair, if
not an outright criminal
attitude. Particularly when it
seems that they're doing
precisely the wrong things
elsewhere, too - not
surprisingly, because they're
working for the owners of the
banks, the insurance companies,
the oil and construction
companies, etc. --CGE<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/20/10 4:48 PM, Gregg
Gordon wrote:
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york,times,serif; font-size:
12pt;">
<div>Maybe because there are
other important issues
that she <em>does</em>
agree with him on. The
only way you're going to
find a candidate you're in
100% agreement with is to
run for office. If
support for the war is an
absolute deal breaker for
you, fine. Not everybody
sees it that way. But if
you think the war will end
sooner if more Republicans
get elected, I think
you're out of your mind.<br>
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Re: [Peace]
[Peace-discuss] Fw:
Money Can't Vote<br>
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This guy supports the
war. I can't see why
anyone on an anti-war
list would contribute to
him.<br>
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On 10/20/10 4:28 PM,
Jenifer Cartwright
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request for
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<div><font
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love this guy!</span></font></div>
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