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Mort--<br>
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Make a list of anti-war Democrats - ones who are willing to vote
against funding the current war, for example - not just those who
say "I'm against war." (Everyone is for peace - on their own
terms.)<br>
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Send me your list, and I'll send you a longer one - beginning with
Ron Paul's and Justin Raimondo's people - of those associated with
the teapartiers who are against this war. <br>
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I remember, from a math class long ago, that this was a way to prove
the existence of multiple infinities, by a process of iteration...<br>
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Neither group is infinite, but they do differ in magnitude. <br>
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Furthermore, the ones I refer to are organized - into Paul's
R3VOLution, the Libertarian party, the paleoconservatives around
several journals - while there is no organized Democratic party
opposition to the Democratic president and administration.<br>
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Those of us with memories of a generation ago want to believe that
there is an anti-war movement on the left wing of the Democratic
party.<br>
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Unfortunately, no one's home. It's been Obama's great contribution
to the war effort to make that so. --CGE <br>
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On 10/21/10 2:38 PM, Brussel wrote:
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cite="mid:66CABF1F-FA73-42B4-B68E-0A247FA7D0B0@illinois.edu"
type="cite">Karen,
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<div>Ask Carl where he gets his data (re. his first line below).
Ask where most of the funding, who are the biggest contributors,
and where most of the PR for the Tea party comes from. And so
what conclusion may one draw?</div>
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<div>Don't be surprised if he switches the subject, refuses to
answer, or cannot answer, because he doesn't have reliable
sources. </div>
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<div>On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Come on, Karen. There
are more anti-war teapartiers than anti-war Democrats.<br>
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Obama's co-option of the anti-war movement meant that
there is no parallel among the Democrats to Ron Paul's
movement of principled opposition to the war, nor to that
of libertarians and paleoconservatives around the website
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Antiwar.com">Antiwar.com</a>
or the journal <i>The American Conservative</i>. <br>
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As an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact. <br>
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On 10/21/10 9:30 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I did notice that there were very few "constitutionalists" around
before the scare tactic of "they are going to give health care to
undocumented immigrants" became popular.
Very few of the tea-partiers are in the anti-war movement.
All I am saying is that it is easy to count the ones that are consistent.
With the ones that are inconsistent, it is harder to count them, but
it is easy to tell if they have read the constitution.
-karen medina
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