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Do you think that there are more anti-war Democrats than anti-war
teapartiers? <br>
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If so, where are they?<br>
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On 10/21/10 11:22 PM, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
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cite="mid:CC824154-6A90-4745-A27A-1C358590AFB5@illinois.edu"
type="cite">Of course he has no data. Need one say more?
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<div>On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:</div>
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<div>Actually, I will give him the benefit of the doubt
about having empirical supporting data to back up his
assertion that "There are more anti-war teapartiers than
anti-war Democrats" ask for the exact number of
tea-partiers there actually are as compared to the exact
number of Democrat there actually are and the exact
number and percentage of those total number of
tea-partiers that are anti-war as compared with the same
for total Democrats and anti-war Democrats. If he has
the empirical data (as opposed to opinion or
speculation) to support his statement that "There are
more anti-war teapartiers than anti-war Democrats", he
surely will have no trouble supplying me with the
numbers and percentages as well as citing the sources of
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<div><font face="Calibri">As for his statement, "</font>As
an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact", I cannot
question the part where he says he deplores that fact ;
but with respect to the first part of the statement, I
would suggest that he is no more an "actual socialist"
philosophically, ideologically, or practically than he
is a race horse, a palm tree, or a rocket ship except in
his own mind and his self-attaching the label to himself
and his beliefs. To be sure, his believes may contain
some elements drawn from the socialist tradition and
some of his actions may have a socialist element to
them;<font face="Calibri"> but that does not make him an
"actual socialist" whatever the hell that means any
more than standing in a garage makes one an
automobile.</font><br>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="brussel@illinois.edu"
href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu">Brussel</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:38 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="galliher@illinois.edu"
href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">C. G.
Estabrook</a> </div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] DN: NAACP
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Karen,
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<div>Ask Carl where he gets his data (re. his first line
below). Ask where most of the funding, who are the
biggest contributors, and where most of the PR for the
Tea party comes from. And so what conclusion may one
draw?</div>
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<div>Don't be surprised if he switches the subject,
refuses to answer, or cannot answer, because he doesn't
have reliable sources. </div>
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<div>On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook
wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Come on,
Karen. There are more anti-war teapartiers than
anti-war Democrats.<br>
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Obama's co-option of the anti-war movement meant
that there is no parallel among the Democrats to
Ron Paul's movement of principled opposition to
the war, nor to that of libertarians and
paleoconservatives around the website <a
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href="http://Antiwar.com/">Antiwar.com</a> or
the journal <i>The American Conservative</i>. <br>
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As an (actual) socialist, I deplore that fact. <br>
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On 10/21/10 9:30 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I did notice that there were very few "constitutionalists" around
before the scare tactic of "they are going to give health care to
undocumented immigrants" became popular.
Very few of the tea-partiers are in the anti-war movement.
All I am saying is that it is easy to count the ones that are consistent.
With the ones that are inconsistent, it is harder to count them, but
it is easy to tell if they have read the constitution.
-karen medina
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