<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:07 PM, C. G. Estabrook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>></span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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The aptly-named Mort?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nope. You're so far out on the fringe, Carl, I'm not sure you know who the REAL Beelzebub is any more. Seriously.</div><div><br></div>
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convinced that War is a Bad Thing, how can they defend The
One Who is responsible for it? (My text today is Judges
4.6ff...)</div>
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<div>While some there are who are non-believers, I have seen no
one on this list actively defending Beelzebub.</div>
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<div>On 10/29/10 3:14 PM, John W. wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Thank you, Carl. I believe I
speak for everyone on this list when I say that you've
succeeded in convincing us, at long last, that War Is
a Bad Thing. We owe you a profound debt of gratitude.
Or is it a debt of profound gratitude?
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<div>Reverently.</div>
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5:15 PM, C. G. Estabrook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank">galliher@illinois.edu</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> "...Obama
is forever 'murdering' people around the world
rather than that his (administration's)
policies indeed lead to the slaughter of
innocents..." <br>
--M. Brussel<br>
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"Killing one person is murder; killing
thousands is foreign policy"<br>
--bumper sticker purchased from AWARE table at
Farmers' Market <br>
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I met Murder on the way -<br>
He had a mask like Castlereagh* -<br>
Very smooth he looked, yet grim;<br>
Seven blood-hounds followed him:<br>
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All were fat; and well they might<br>
Be in admirable plight,<br>
For one by one, and two by two,<br>
He tossed the human hearts to chew<br>
Which from his wide cloak he drew.<br>
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Next came Fraud, and he had on,<br>
Like Eldon, an ermined gown;<br>
His big tears, for he wept well,<br>
Turned to mill-stones as they fell.<br>
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And the little children, who<br>
Round his feet played to and fro,<br>
Thinking every tear a gem,<br>
Had their brains knocked out by them...<br>
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'And that slaughter to the Nation<br>
Shall steam up like inspiration,<br>
Eloquent, oracular;<br>
A volcano heard afar.<br>
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'And these words shall then become<br>
Like Oppression's thundered doom<br>
Ringing through each heart and brain,<br>
Heard again - again - again -<br>
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'Rise like Lions after slumber<br>
In unvanquishable number -<br>
Shake your chains to earth like dew<br>
Which in sleep had fallen on you -<br>
Ye are many - they are few.'<br>
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--from "The Masque of Anarchy," by Percy
Bysshe Shelley, written on the occasion of the
"Peterloo Massacre" carried out by the British
Government at St Peter's Field, Manchester, on
16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a
crowd of 60,000–80,000 gathered at a meeting
to demand the reform of parliamentary
representation. (Cf. the attack on the unarmed
Bonus Expeditionary Force - 43,000 marchers,
including 17,000 World War I veterans and
their families - in Washington DC on 28 July
1932 by US army infantry and cavalry supported
by six tanks, and commanded by Army Chief of
Staff General Douglas MacArthur; Major, later
President, Dwight D. Eisenhower was his
liaison with Washington police, and Major
George Patton led the cavalry.)<br>
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*British Foreign Minister who eventually
killed himself by cutting his throat with a
letter-opener.<br>
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