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    The aptly-named Mort?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nope.  You&#39;re so far out on the fringe, Carl, I&#39;m not sure you know who the REAL Beelzebub is any more.  Seriously.</div><div><br></div>
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        Estabrook <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank">galliher@illinois.edu</a>&gt;</span>
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            convinced that War is a Bad Thing, how can they defend The
            One Who is responsible for it? (My text today is Judges
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        <div>While some there are who are non-believers, I have seen no
          one on this list actively defending Beelzebub.</div>
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              <div>On 10/29/10 3:14 PM, John W. wrote:
                <blockquote type="cite">Thank you, Carl.  I believe I
                  speak for everyone on this list when I say that you&#39;ve
                  succeeded in convincing us, at long last, that War Is
                  a Bad Thing.  We owe you a profound debt of gratitude.
                   Or is it a debt of profound gratitude?
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                  <div>Reverently.</div>
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                      5:15 PM, C. G. Estabrook <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" target="_blank">galliher@illinois.edu</a>&gt;</span>
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                        <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> &quot;...Obama
                          is forever &#39;murdering&#39; people around the world
                          rather than that his (administration&#39;s)
                          policies indeed lead to the slaughter of
                          innocents...&quot; <br>
                          --M. Brussel<br>
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                          &quot;Killing one person is murder; killing
                          thousands is foreign policy&quot;<br>
                          --bumper sticker purchased from AWARE table at
                          Farmers&#39; Market <br>
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                          I met Murder on the way -<br>
                          He had a mask like Castlereagh* -<br>
                          Very smooth he looked, yet grim;<br>
                          Seven blood-hounds followed him:<br>
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                          All were fat; and well they might<br>
                          Be in admirable plight,<br>
                          For one by one, and two by two,<br>
                          He tossed the human hearts to chew<br>
                          Which from his wide cloak he drew.<br>
                          <br>
                          Next came Fraud, and he had on,<br>
                          Like Eldon, an ermined gown;<br>
                          His big tears, for he wept well,<br>
                          Turned to mill-stones as they fell.<br>
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                          And the little children, who<br>
                          Round his feet played to and fro,<br>
                          Thinking every tear a gem,<br>
                          Had their brains knocked out by them...<br>
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                          &#39;And that slaughter to the Nation<br>
                          Shall steam up like inspiration,<br>
                          Eloquent, oracular;<br>
                          A volcano heard afar.<br>
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                          &#39;And these words shall then become<br>
                          Like Oppression&#39;s thundered doom<br>
                          Ringing through each heart and brain,<br>
                          Heard again - again - again -<br>
                          <br>
                          &#39;Rise like Lions after slumber<br>
                          In unvanquishable number -<br>
                          Shake your chains to earth like dew<br>
                          Which in sleep had fallen on you -<br>
                          Ye are many - they are few.&#39;<br>
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                          --from &quot;The Masque of Anarchy,&quot; by Percy
                          Bysshe Shelley, written on the occasion of the
                          &quot;Peterloo Massacre&quot; carried out by the British
                          Government at St Peter&#39;s Field, Manchester, on
                          16 August 1819, when cavalry charged into a
                          crowd of 60,000–80,000 gathered at a meeting
                          to demand the reform of parliamentary
                          representation. (Cf. the attack on the unarmed
                          Bonus Expeditionary Force - 43,000 marchers,
                          including 17,000 World War I veterans and
                          their families - in Washington DC on 28 July
                          1932 by US army infantry and cavalry supported
                          by six tanks, and commanded by Army Chief of
                          Staff General Douglas MacArthur; Major, later
                          President, Dwight D. Eisenhower was his
                          liaison with Washington police, and Major
                          George Patton led the cavalry.)<br>
                          ___________<br>
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                          *British Foreign Minister who eventually
                          killed himself by cutting his throat with a
                          letter-opener.<br>
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