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<DIV>&nbsp;" if you don't get this, I can't help you. "</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can say the same thing to you as 
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama from 
expanding the war in Afganistan.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama's phoney 
" health care reform " , which was a give away to the corporate insurance 
industry, and denied medicare for millions via individual state intiatives until 
2019.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It was NOT the repubs who obstructed Obama from 
supporting the bank bail-out and watering down the so called reforms on the 
Banking industry....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and the list goes on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AS I Said ... IT IS THE CORPORATE MONEY 
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ANY candidate who takes corporate money is 
compromised and is our enemy !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It does not matter what party they 
are.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Until YOU realize this and act accordingly, you 
will continue to be " played ". The corporate interests will continue to win and 
we the people will continue to lose !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David J.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer 
  Cartwright</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net 
  href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</A> ; <A 
  title=dlj725@hughes.net href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:50 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These 
  People Are Voting</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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      <TD vAlign=top>IF is yr problem here, David J. Yes, you and I would both 
        LOVE for the US to be a socialist democracy, and for lawmakers like 
        Kucinich and Feingold -- and even Sanders, maybe -- to be at the right 
        of the political spectrum, but we don't have that option... So we have 
        to settle for whatever will keep the country from sliding even farther 
        to the right... which means we go w/ our long-term conscience and vote 
        for Dems, the lesser of evils, to keep the Repubs, the greater of evils, 
        out! (Evidence to the contrary that Obama hasn't done anything... and 
        he'd have done more w/o the obstructionist Repubs -- look it up). As I 
        said before, if you don't get this, I can't help you.
        <DIV>&nbsp;--Jenifer&nbsp;<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 10/31/10, David Johnson 
        <I>&lt;dlj725@hughes.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: 
          David Johnson &lt;dlj725@hughes.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: 
          [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting<BR>To: "Peace-discuss 
          List" &lt;peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net&gt;, "Jenifer Cartwright" 
          &lt;jencart13@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 11:06 
          AM<BR><BR>
          <DIV id=yiv896249028> 
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The proof is in the pudding Jenifer 
          !</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Where is our " Hope and Change " ?</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Since Obama's election and even before that when 
          the democrats took control of both the House and Senate, the VERY SAME 
          Bush policies continue.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>NOTHING has changed !</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The same people run the show via a different 
          hand puppet with a different party label.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>My family were staunch democrats going back to 
          FDR and I myself was one as well, going door to door, doing phone 
          banks, registering people to vote, etc., until I began to see and get 
          fed up with the betrayl of working people&nbsp;by the democrats 
          starting with Bill Clinton and NAFTA.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>IF we had someone like Dennis Kucinich , Nancy 
          Kaptur, Paul Wellstone, etc. that I was able to vote for, I would vote 
          for them enthusiasticly,</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>But we don't, and how voting for corporate 
          funded&nbsp;;&nbsp;pro-privatization,&nbsp;pro-war, pro " free trade 
          "&nbsp;democrats is going to change anything for the better in this 
          country is a delusion !</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wake-up and realize that you are being played 
          via the " good cop - bad cop " game.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Until we stop voting for ANY candidate that 
          takes corporate money, regardless of their party label, start getting 
          more active in getting REAL anti-corporate democrats ( and republicans 
          ) elected in the primaries, and build a third party to hedge our bets 
          for the general election when no anti-corporate candidates are 
          available, nothing will change for the better !</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=Arial>David Johnson</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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            <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
            <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A 
            title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com" 
            target=_blank rel=nofollow 
            ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
            title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net 
            href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target=_blank 
            rel=nofollow 
            ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss 
            List</A> ; <A title=dlj725@hughes.net 
            href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow 
            ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 31, 2010 
            12:45 AM</DIV>
            <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] 
            Fw: These People Are Voting</DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
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                <TD vAlign=top>If you really don't see any difference betw the 
                  Dems and Repubs, well, it's beyond my ability to help you with 
                  that. And if you do see a difference, but it's not enuff of a 
                  difference for you, I guess you'll have to live w/ yr choice. 
                  Unfortunately, I and others will also have to live w/ yr 
                  choice, which means a hopelessly scary outcome. 
                  <DIV>&nbsp;--Jenifer &nbsp;<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 10/30/10, 
                  David Johnson <I>&lt;<A 
                  href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net" target=_blank 
                  rel=nofollow 
                  ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</A>&gt;</I></B> 
                  wrote:<BR>
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                  style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: 
                    David Johnson &lt;dlj725@hughes.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: 
                    [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting<BR>To: 
                    "Peace-discuss List" 
                    &lt;peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net&gt;, "Jenifer 
                    Cartwright" &lt;jencart13@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Date: Saturday, 
                    October 30, 2010, 6:58 PM<BR><BR>
                    <DIV id=yiv896249028yiv237751608> 
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Which " cretins " are you refering to 
                    ?</FONT></DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The corporate sponsored democrats or 
                    the corporate sponsored republicans ?</FONT></DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I am voting for the ONLY real 
                    alternative to corporate plutocracy,</FONT></DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial>( since Dennis Kucinich, Nancy Kaptur, 
                    or the small handfull of other decent dems are not in our 
                    area ) and that is the GREEN party.</FONT></DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Don't be fooled by the good cop / bad 
                    cop corporate game !</FONT></DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></DIV>
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                      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
                      </DIV>
                      <DIV 
                      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> 
                      <A title=jencart13@yahoo.com rel=nofollow>Jenifer 
                      Cartwright</A> </DIV>
                      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
                      title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net 
                      rel=nofollow>Peace-discuss</A> </DIV>
                      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 
                      October 30, 2010 5:22 PM</DIV>
                      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> 
                      [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting</DIV>
                      <DIV><BR></DIV>
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                          <TD vAlign=top>Effective -- I hope this has been 
                            playing long enuff and far and wide enuff for the 
                            right (meaning, <I>left)</I> folks to see it and dop 
                            their best on Tuesday to keep out the cretins. 
                            (Easier to keep them out then get them out once 
                            they're in -- think "Supreme Court"...) 
                            <DIV>&nbsp;--Jenifer<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 10/30/10, 
                            James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org <I>&lt;<A 
                            rel=nofollow>info@colorofchange.org</A>&gt;</I></B> 
                            wrote:<BR>
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                              James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org 
                              &lt;info@colorofchange.org&gt;<BR>Subject: These 
                              People Are Voting<BR>To: "Jenifer Cartwright" 
                              &lt;jencart13@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Date: Saturday, 
                              October 30, 2010, 2:25 PM<BR><BR>
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                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px">Dear Jenifer, </P>
                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px">Next Tuesday is 
                              Election Day, and one factor above all others will 
                              determine the outcome: <B>WHO VOTES.</B> </P>
                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px">That’s why we're 
                              sharing this video we created with our friends at 
                              Presente called “Look Who Is Voting,” to remind 
                              you of some of the people who will be heading to 
                              the polls on November 2. </P>
                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px"><B>It's really short, 
                              and we promise you will be glad you watched 
                              it.</B> </P>
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                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px">If you had any doubts 
                              about heading to the polls, this video should help 
                              get rid of them. </P>
                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px"><B>And if you have any 
                              friends or family who you think might not show up 
                              to vote, please send them the video to remind them 
                              why staying home is simply not an option.</B> </P>
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                              <P style="MARGIN: 1em 0px">-- James, Gabriel, 
                              William, Dani, Natasha and the rest of the 
                              ColorOfChange.org team <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; October 
                              30th, 2010</P>
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