<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">IF is yr problem here, David J. Yes, you and I would both LOVE for the US to be a socialist democracy, and for lawmakers like Kucinich and Feingold -- and even Sanders, maybe -- to be at the right of the political spectrum, but we don't have that option... So we have to settle for whatever will keep the country from sliding even farther to the right... which means we go w/ our long-term conscience and vote for Dems, the lesser of evils, to keep the Repubs, the greater of evils, out! (Evidence to the contrary that Obama hasn't done anything... and he'd have done more w/o the obstructionist Repubs -- look it up). As I said before, if you don't get this, I can't help you.<div> --Jenifer <br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 10/31/10, David Johnson <i><dlj725@hughes.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left:
5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting<br>To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 11:06 AM<br><br><div id="yiv896249028">
<div><font face="Arial">The proof is in the pudding Jenifer !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Where is our " Hope and Change " ?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Since Obama's election and even before that when the
democrats took control of both the House and Senate, the VERY SAME Bush policies
continue.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">NOTHING has changed !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">The same people run the show via a different hand puppet
with a different party label.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">My family were staunch democrats going back to FDR and I
myself was one as well, going door to door, doing phone banks, registering
people to vote, etc., until I began to see and get fed up with the betrayl of
working people by the democrats starting with Bill Clinton and
NAFTA.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">IF we had someone like Dennis Kucinich , Nancy Kaptur,
Paul Wellstone, etc. that I was able to vote for, I would vote for them
enthusiasticly,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">But we don't, and how voting for corporate
funded ; pro-privatization, pro-war, pro " free trade
" democrats is going to change anything for the better in this country is a
delusion !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Wake-up and realize that you are being played via the "
good cop - bad cop " game.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Until we stop voting for ANY candidate that takes
corporate money, regardless of their party label, start getting more active in
getting REAL anti-corporate democrats ( and republicans ) elected in the
primaries, and build a third party to hedge our bets for the general election
when no anti-corporate candidates are available, nothing will change for the
better !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">David Johnson</font></div>
<div> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT:10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="dlj725@hughes.net" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</a>
</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:45
AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: These
People Are Voting</div>
<div><br></div>
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<td valign="top">If you really don't see any difference betw the Dems and
Repubs, well, it's beyond my ability to help you with that. And if you
do see a difference, but it's not enuff of a difference for you, I guess
you'll have to live w/ yr choice. Unfortunately, I and others will also
have to live w/ yr choice, which means a hopelessly scary outcome.
<div> --Jenifer <br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 10/30/10, David
Johnson <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;"><br>From:
David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>Subject: Re:
[Peace-discuss] Fw: These People Are Voting<br>To: "Peace-discuss
List" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 6:58
PM<br><br>
<div id="yiv896249028yiv237751608">
<div><font face="Arial">Which " cretins " are you refering to
?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">The corporate sponsored democrats or the
corporate sponsored republicans ?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">I am voting for the ONLY real alternative to
corporate plutocracy,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">( since Dennis Kucinich, Nancy Kaptur, or the
small handfull of other decent dems are not in our area ) and that is
the GREEN party.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Don't be fooled by the good cop / bad cop
corporate game !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">David J.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT:10pt arial;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss</a>
</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 30,
2010 5:22 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> [Peace-discuss] Fw:
These People Are Voting</div>
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<td valign="top">Effective -- I hope this has been playing long
enuff and far and wide enuff for the right (meaning,
<i>left)</i> folks to see it and dop their best on Tuesday to
keep out the cretins. (Easier to keep them out then get them
out once they're in -- think "Supreme Court"...)
<div> --Jenifer<br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 10/30/10, James
Rucker, ColorOfChange.org <i><<a rel="nofollow">info@colorofchange.org</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;"><br>From:
James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org
<info@colorofchange.org><br>Subject: These People Are
Voting<br>To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Saturday, October 30,
2010, 2:25 PM<br><br>
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<p style="MARGIN:1em 0px;">Dear Jenifer, </p>
<p style="MARGIN:1em 0px;">Next Tuesday is Election Day, and
one factor above all others will determine the outcome:
<b>WHO VOTES.</b> </p>
<p style="MARGIN:1em 0px;">That’s why we're sharing this
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