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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> David Green <davegreen84@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Peace Discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, November 19, 2010 3:20:23 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace-discuss] ACLU liberals<BR></FONT><BR>I object to your guilt-by-association. If you want to slam one person<BR>with whom you have an issue, that's one thing. It's another thing to<BR>slam an organization, based on your interaction with one individual<BR>who is in the organization.<BR><BR>If you follow what the national ACLU has been putting out on the<BR>policies of the Obama Administration, on detention, on assassination,<BR>on military commissions, on accountability for torture, etc. I think<BR>one would
be hard pressed to argue that they have been pulling their<BR>punches.<BR><BR>On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Green <<A href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> The ACLU stands for one of many possible fundamental principles. Too many of<BR>> its members think that that is the only one worth standing for, and wish to<BR>> cover themselves with glory for doing so. It's become a pretty transparent<BR>> business, and Gehrig's behavior exposes one aspect of that--he's an overt<BR>> racist vis a vis the Palestinians, and he's especially annoyed that I showed<BR>> him to be a liar regarding the death of Rachel Corrie. Bob, I would think<BR>> that that would concern you regarding the credibility of the ACLU, as well<BR>> as the substantive issue I've raised in my letter; likely I would think<BR>> wrong. Nothing about liberals seems to bother
you.<BR>><BR>> DG<BR>> ________________________________<BR>> From: Robert Naiman <<A href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>><BR>> To: David Green <<A href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</A>><BR>> Cc: Peace Discuss <<A href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 12:14:54 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] ACLU liberals<BR>><BR>> Is the ACLU responsible for what David Gehrig writes in letters to the<BR>> DI? When he volunteered to sit at the table, should they have said:<BR>> now, not just anyone can sit at this table. What kind of letters do<BR>> you plan to write to the DI?<BR>><BR>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM, David Green <<A
href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>> The last time I saw David Gehrig, he was manning the ACLU table at the<BR>>> Farmers Market. I hear that he has resigned from the Urbana City Council.<BR>>> Here's his comment in response to my DI letter:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <A href="http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/2010/11/17/exploitation-of-war-for-fun-profit-disturbing#comments-title" target=_blank>http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/2010/11/17/exploitation-of-war-for-fun-profit-disturbing#comments-title</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "Is the Daily Illini really so hard up for letters that it must print<BR>>> near-weekly squashrot from the fringe flake David Green? Has he absolutely<BR>>> no idea of how he comes across? I've never seen anyone so brilliantly<BR>>> incarnate every
facet of the far-right parody of what a dour, smug,<BR>>> holds-the-copyright-on-sanctimonious leftist is like. Is he some kind of<BR>>> counter-Colbert, except that nobody's in on the joke?"<BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> Peace-discuss mailing list<BR>>> <A href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" ymailto="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A><BR>>> <A href="http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target=_blank>http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Robert Naiman<BR>> Policy Director<BR>> Just Foreign Policy<BR>> www.justforeignpolicy.org<BR>> <A href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" ymailto="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR>><BR>> Urge Congress to Support a
Timetable for Military Withdrawal from<BR>> Afghanistan<BR>> <A href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern" target=_blank>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern</A><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Robert Naiman<BR>Policy Director<BR>Just Foreign Policy<BR>www.justforeignpolicy.org<BR><A href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" ymailto="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR><BR>Urge Congress to Support a Timetable for Military Withdrawal from Afghanistan<BR><A href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern" target=_blank>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern</A><BR></DIV></DIV></div><br>
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