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The ACLU, like the NRA, will take Anyone as a member.<br>
I offer as evidence the fact that I was a member of the ACLU in the mid
'90s<br>
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But David Green makes a good point.<br>
<br>
Mr. Gehrig is a highly visible member of ACLU.<br>
<br>
Gehrig obviously supports American imperial militarism, and the current
wars specifically<br>
to the point of inciting public mockery of those who are proactively
anti-war. <br>
<br>
Gehrig, in the typical paradoxical authoritarianism of "liberals" seeks
to squelch the voices of<br>
those he disagrees with. The Orwellian shift of their appellation
seems less and less paradoxical <br>
as one gets used to how these "liberals" operate. <br>
<br>
One still wonders at times if the "A" in ACLU stands for "Anti-" or for
Authoritarian.<br>
As "American" becomes more and more associated with Authoritarianism,
narrow bounds,<br>
and narrower minds, perhaps it doesnt matter much to bring any clarity.<br>
<br>
Since "you know them by their fruits", Mr. Gehrig as a prominent
ACLU'er <br>
represents the produce of the ACLU. It doesnt matter what is happening
nationally<br>
because at the local level that the people get to see who<br>
the ACLUers really are. Right now everyone can see that the ACLU are
purveyors<br>
of bitter mocking invective and hip urban neologisms like "squashrot".<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/20/2010 5:20 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I object to your guilt-by-association. If you want to slam one person
with whom you have an issue, that's one thing. It's another thing to
slam an organization, based on your interaction with one individual
who is in the organization.
If you follow what the national ACLU has been putting out on the
policies of the Obama Administration, on detention, on assassination,
on military commissions, on accountability for torture, etc. I think
one would be hard pressed to argue that they have been pulling their
punches.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Green <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com"><davegreen84@yahoo.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The ACLU stands for one of many possible fundamental principles. Too many of
its members think that that is the only one worth standing for, and wish to
cover themselves with glory for doing so. It's become a pretty transparent
business, and Gehrig's behavior exposes one aspect of that--he's an overt
racist vis a vis the Palestinians, and he's especially annoyed that I showed
him to be a liar regarding the death of Rachel Corrie. Bob, I would think
that that would concern you regarding the credibility of the ACLU, as well
as the substantive issue I've raised in my letter; likely I would think
wrong. Nothing about liberals seems to bother you.
DG
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To: David Green <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com"><davegreen84@yahoo.com></a>
Cc: Peace Discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"><peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></a>
Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 12:14:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] ACLU liberals
Is the ACLU responsible for what David Gehrig writes in letters to the
DI? When he volunteered to sit at the table, should they have said:
now, not just anyone can sit at this table. What kind of letters do
you plan to write to the DI?
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM, David Green <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com"><davegreen84@yahoo.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The last time I saw David Gehrig, he was manning the ACLU table at the
Farmers Market. I hear that he has resigned from the Urbana City Council.
Here's his comment in response to my DI letter:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/2010/11/17/exploitation-of-war-for-fun-profit-disturbing#comments-title">http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/2010/11/17/exploitation-of-war-for-fun-profit-disturbing#comments-title</a>
"Is the Daily Illini really so hard up for letters that it must print
near-weekly squashrot from the fringe flake David Green? Has he absolutely
no idea of how he comes across? I've never seen anyone so brilliantly
incarnate every facet of the far-right parody of what a dour, smug,
holds-the-copyright-on-sanctimonious leftist is like. Is he some kind of
counter-Colbert, except that nobody's in on the joke?"
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