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    It's been an argument coming from church officials - bishops and
    clergy, particularly in the global south - for some time. <br>
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    On 11/20/10 8:17 PM, Corey Mattson wrote:
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      <div>Carl - I think I found where you're quoting from and don't
        agree with your interpretation of it.  It says that the Pope has
        been criticized by even church officials on his view that
        monogamous couples should not use condoms to avoid disease. It
        doesn't mention how many church officials. Just before this
        statement, the article says that the Pope did not mention
        couples where one spouse is infected, mentioning only the case
        of male prostitutes. (BTW, I support any move toward condom use,
        but of course for everybody, not just males and male
        prostitutes. Didn't want to give the wrong impression.)</div>
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        On Nov 20, 2010, at 4:59 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
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        <div> As the article points out, church officials have accepted 
          "condom use for ... couples [with an HIV+ spouse] to protect
          the uninfected spouse from transmission."  The pope's remarks
          will reinforce that opinion. <br>
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          On 11/20/10 4:40 PM, Corey Mattson wrote:
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            <div>Huh...Surprising. Like Carl implies, it looks like the
              Church can permit condom use when it doesn't directly
              impede procreation. So tell me if I got the Pope's view
              wrong: Condoms used to stop diseases are fine, only when
              the sexual act in which they're used cannot result in
              pregnancy. This is surprising, since someone opposed to
              homosexuality could easily argue that allowing for condom
              use among homosexual males is also promoting sex that does
              not result in procreation. Like everything coming from the
              Vatican, it seems a little convoluted.</div>
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            <div>Corey</div>
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              Sent from my iPhone</div>
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              On Nov 20, 2010, at 1:56 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" &lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>&gt;

              wrote:<br>
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              <div> ...was making the fairly obvious point that it's
                better not to risk the spread of disease. <br>
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                His comment attracts notice only because earlier popes
                had disapproved of condoms for birth control.<br>
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                I think it's fair to say that the pope doesn't approve
                of homosexual acts among adult males.<br>
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                On 11/20/10 1:32 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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                          <div>Omg, color me shocked reading the Pope's
                            stance on the use of condoms for male
                            prostitutes until I realized that once
                            again, this benefits ONLY males (double duty
                            this time, ya might say). So the pope is
                            okay w/ homosexuality so long as it's
                            limited to ADULT males?? Any chance that the
                            Christian right and tea-baggers will follow
                            suit, do ya suppose??</div>
                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101120/ap_on_re_eu/eu_pope_condoms">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101120/ap_on_re_eu/eu_pope_condoms</a></div>
                          <div> --Jenifer</div>
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