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    From the BBC: "Austen Ivereigh, coordinator of the Catholic Voices
    group, said that while this was the first time the Pope had voiced
    such an opinion on condoms, it was in line with what Catholic moral
    theologians have been saying for many years."<br>
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    On 11/20/10 8:52 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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      It's been an argument coming from church officials - bishops and
      clergy, particularly in the global south - for some time. <br>
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      On 11/20/10 8:17 PM, Corey Mattson wrote:
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        <div>Carl - I think I found where you're quoting from and don't
          agree with your interpretation of it.  It says that the Pope
          has been criticized by even church officials on his view that
          monogamous couples should not use condoms to avoid disease. It
          doesn't mention how many church officials. Just before this
          statement, the article says that the Pope did not mention
          couples where one spouse is infected, mentioning only the case
          of male prostitutes. (BTW, I support any move toward condom
          use, but of course for everybody, not just males and male
          prostitutes. Didn't want to give the wrong impression.)</div>
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          On Nov 20, 2010, at 4:59 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" &lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>&gt;

          wrote:<br>
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          <div> As the article points out, church officials have
            accepted  "condom use for ... couples [with an HIV+ spouse]
            to protect the uninfected spouse from transmission."  The
            pope's remarks will reinforce that opinion. <br>
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            On 11/20/10 4:40 PM, Corey Mattson wrote:
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              <div>Huh...Surprising. Like Carl implies, it looks like
                the Church can permit condom use when it doesn't
                directly impede procreation. So tell me if I got the
                Pope's view wrong: Condoms used to stop diseases are
                fine, only when the sexual act in which they're used
                cannot result in pregnancy. This is surprising, since
                someone opposed to homosexuality could easily argue that
                allowing for condom use among homosexual males is also
                promoting sex that does not result in procreation. Like
                everything coming from the Vatican, it seems a little
                convoluted.</div>
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              <div>Corey</div>
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                Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                On Nov 20, 2010, at 1:56 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" &lt;<a
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                wrote:<br>
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                <div> ...was making the fairly obvious point that it's
                  better not to risk the spread of disease. <br>
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                  His comment attracts notice only because earlier popes
                  had disapproved of condoms for birth control.<br>
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                  I think it's fair to say that the pope doesn't approve
                  of homosexual acts among adult males.<br>
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                  On 11/20/10 1:32 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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                            <div>Omg, color me shocked reading the
                              Pope's stance on the use of condoms for
                              male prostitutes until I realized that
                              once again, this benefits ONLY males
                              (double duty this time, ya might say). So
                              the pope is okay w/ homosexuality so long
                              as it's limited to ADULT males?? Any
                              chance that the Christian right and
                              tea-baggers will follow suit, do ya
                              suppose??</div>
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                            <div> --Jenifer</div>
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