<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Estabrook and Johnson are clearly not travelling by airplane this weekend. <div><br></div><div>Castigating the ACLU (which, perhaps not incidentally, supports a woman's right to choose whether to continue a pregnancy) for telling people what they can legally do and expect is abject, but to be expected from this quarter. I suppose they would spit in the eyes of the TSA types if they were trying to board a plane. Easy to be brave from the far sidelines.</div><div><br></div><div>--mkb</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:02 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Count on good liberals to knuckle under and advise acquiescence when
the government says it's serious.<br>
<br>
People who urge serious opposition are excoriated with stupid
phrases like "Planet Wingnut."<br>
<br>
With advice like this, it's hardly surprising that Americans can't
muster the sort of opposition that we see in France, Germany, or
even the UK. <br>
<br>
On 11/23/10 7:03 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> Advising people what their
legal rights are does not equal telling <br>
> them to submit, except on Planet Wingnut.<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:49 PM, E. Wayne Johnson
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag"><ewj@pigs.ag></a><br>
> wrote:<br>
>> The Orwellian lock-step Democrats seem to be offering a
united<br>
>> front of pathetic submission to the Invasion of the Body
Snatchers<br>
>> at TSA.<br>
>> <br>
>> Even the generally sassy FireDogLake is advising people
to submit.<br>
>> <br>
>> Jane Hamster is offering not the 4th amendment: The right
of the<br>
>> people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects,<br>
>> against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, <br>
>> and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by<br>
>> Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be<br>
>> searched, and the persons or things to be seized.<br>
>> <br>
>> FDL is advising people to "Know your Rights" (in other
words, No<br>
>> Rights)<br>
>> <br>
>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/11/KnowYourRights-full.jpg">http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/11/KnowYourRights-full.jpg</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> </span>Bless their cowardly little hearts. May their
chains rest lightly upon<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">>> them.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> My take on this matter is that any response to TSA that
is milder<br>
>> than at minimum a very polite "Fuck You! You're not going
to do<br>
>> it!" is an egregious and embarrassing surrender.<br>
>> <br>
>> Wayne Johnson<br>
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