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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It's hard to spit in anyone's eyes other than one's
own when handcuffed and pushed face down horizontally on the floor.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You make a good point Mort. I am not
always as bold, brave or carefree as I would like.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The Bravery of being out of range leaves one
vulnerable to criticism, and rightly so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Some projects bear far more risk than
others. One has to decide which battles to fight. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Particularly such battles as are likely to
accelerate far beyond one's coping ability. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It's easy to be surprised by how little or how much
one is able to take. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Such are the dangers of activism.
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mkbrussel@comcast.net href="mailto:mkbrussel@comcast.net">Brussel
Morton K.</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=galliher@illinois.edu
href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">C. G. Estabrook</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] fourth
amendment, and more, violated.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Estabrook and Johnson are clearly not travelling by
airplane this weekend.
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<DIV>Castigating the ACLU (which, perhaps not incidentally, supports a woman's
right to choose whether to continue a pregnancy) for telling people what they
can legally do and expect is abject, but to be expected from this quarter.
I suppose they would spit in the eyes of the TSA types if they were
trying to board a plane. Easy to be brave from the far sidelines.</DIV>
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<DIV>--mkb</DIV>
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<DIV>On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:02 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Count on good liberals to knuckle
under and advise acquiescence when the government says it's
serious.<BR><BR>People who urge serious opposition are excoriated with
stupid phrases like "Planet Wingnut."<BR><BR>With advice like this, it's
hardly surprising that Americans can't muster the sort of opposition that we
see in France, Germany, or even the UK. <BR><BR>On 11/23/10 7:03 PM, Robert
Naiman wrote:<BR><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre">> Advising people what
their legal rights are does not equal telling <BR>> them to submit,
except on Planet Wingnut.<BR>> <BR>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:49 PM,
E. Wayne Johnson <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag"><ewj@pigs.ag></A><BR>> wrote:<BR>>>
The Orwellian lock-step Democrats seem to be offering a united<BR>>>
front of pathetic submission to the Invasion of the Body
Snatchers<BR>>> at TSA.<BR>>> <BR>>> Even the generally
sassy FireDogLake is advising people to submit.<BR>>> <BR>>>
Jane Hamster is offering not the 4th amendment: The right of the<BR>>>
people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects,<BR>>> against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not
be violated, <BR>>> and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable
cause, supported by<BR>>> Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be<BR>>> searched, and the persons or things
to be seized.<BR>>> <BR>>> FDL is advising people to "Know your
Rights" (in other words, No<BR>>> Rights)<BR>>> <BR>>> <A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/11/KnowYourRights-full.jpg">http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/11/KnowYourRights-full.jpg</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
</SPAN>Bless their cowardly little hearts. May their chains rest
lightly upon<BR><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre">>> them.<BR>>>
<BR>>> <BR>>> My take on this matter is that any response to TSA
that is milder<BR>>> than at minimum a very polite "Fuck You! You're
not going to do<BR>>> it!" is an egregious and embarrassing
surrender.<BR>>> <BR>>> Wayne
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