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<DIV>Too bad there was only three students in the course. It might be
interesting to design a course for the high schools, universities, community
centers/churches that deals with the roles of topical folk and protest songs
play in socio-political history (or even broader, the role all kinds of music
play in socio-political history).</DIV>
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<DIV>Ochs knew, interacted with, and even held in esteem Bob Dylan. There
is a funny story about Ochs riding with Dylan in a car in NYC until Dylan
stopped the car and threw Ochs out. The reasons ands details have never
been disclosed; but that event put an end to their interactions although not
Och’s esteem for Dylan. Nevertheless, Ochs certainly was the more
politically aware and active of the two both musically and politically.
Yes, I too am interested in seeing the movie; it would be nice if the university
or an organization in the university would bring it here and show
it.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davegreen84@yahoo.com
href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">David Green</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 17, 2011 9:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ls1000@live.com href="mailto:ls1000@live.com">Laurie
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<DIV>Thanks Laurie--the three students who signed up for the course indeed
enjoyed it--we basically just listened to the music, really. I'm very much
looking forward to seeing the recently released movie about Ochs. He was a
remarakble figure whose work lends itself to a better political understanding of
the era than Dylan's.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Nice syllabus; how did the short course go and what were the responses and
reactions of the students?</DIV>
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<DIV>There are a few Phil Ochs songs that I would have included. One in
particular that was an anti-war song that I thought was quite powerful, which I
heard on a Philly station when Michael Cuscuna interviewed Ochs and had him sing
it live but which I never heard again until I recently rediscovered it on You
Tube and found out that it had been released on a Phil Ochs album called,
Phil Ochs:The Early Years, and is now available on CD. This tune is
entitled, “What are You Fighting For?” It has a very striking line that
reads, “I know you’re set for fighting; but what are you fighting for?”
However, Ochs was no one-note Johnny; he did not focus on merely anti-war
protests but wrote and sang songs about immigration, civil rights, union issues
and history, religion, social apathy, politics and political policy, the AMA and
health care, hypocrisy, and much more.</DIV>
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<DIV>Among those I would have included dealing with change, hypocrisy, and
activism would be:</DIV>
<DIV>1. “That’s What I Want To Hear” which addresses activists who are always
complaining but do nothing to organize and take action.</DIV>
<DIV>2. “Love Me, I’m a Liberal” which is about hypocrisy and wishy-washy
plastic people</DIV>
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<DIV>Among those dealing with apathy and indifference, I would include:</DIV>
<DIV>1. “Flower Lady” a song about indifference to the plight of the poor
and self-indulgence of people</DIV>
<DIV>2. “Outside Of A Small Circle of Friends” a song based on the story of a
woman in NYC who was killed in front of several witnesses who stood by and did
nothing to help her because they did not want to get involved.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Imperialism, I would have included ”White Boots Marching in a Yellow
Land” and “Santo Domingo.”</DIV>
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<DIV>On civil rights and bigotry, I would include: “Too Many Martyrs” and
“Here’s To The State Of Mississippi.”</DIV>
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<DIV>I should note that groups such as Mason Proffit – an Illinois country rock
band – also were singing protest songs during this same period about Native
American rights and discrimination as well as the emphasis on conformity and the
repression of freedom of expression by the mainstream establishment.</DIV>
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<DIV>At any rate David, it does look like it would have been an interesting
course and a different approach to the study of history and civics, social
science studies, policy analysis and politics, and participatory democracy.
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ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">David Green</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 17, 2011 1:57 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>I've attached a "syllabus" of 1960s folk-protest music that I developed for
a short course at Uni High a few years back; it concludes with an article by
Howard Zinn.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Laurie Solomon
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peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR><B><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Here are links to three Phil Ochs tunes that
are as relevant today as they were in the 1960s. The first can be applied
to many of the current batch of so-called progressives, leftists, and social
activists along with the Liberals of today and the not so distant past.
The second tune represents a commentary on the immigration issues and policies
of 60s but is relevant top the topic of immigration in the current
atmosphere where use and abuse exploitation of immigrants for the benefits of
the mostly white establishment when expedient and discrimination and racism when
no longer needed continues only in a more paranoid form. The thirds song
speaks to the manufacturing of consent and control of the boundaries of
acceptable dissent and debate by the establishment and its minions.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Phil Ochs was and still is a
troubadour/political activist of the highest order from the sixties who wrote
insightful songs of critical social commentary on the topics of the day back in
the the 60s and up until his death of the first order and on a par with Bob
Dylan’s best work. Most of these songs are relevant today. He should
not be forgotten, which is why I am calling attention to him and his
work.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Enjoy!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Love me, I'm a Liberal:<BR></FONT><A
href="http://www.myspace.com/philochs-45781725/music/songs/love-me-i-m-a-liberal-28443234"
rel=nofollow target=_blank><FONT
face="Times New Roman">http://www.myspace.com/philochs-45781725/music/songs/love-me-i-m-a-liberal-28443234</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Brasero:<BR></FONT><A
href="http://s0.ilike.com/play#Phil+Ochs:Bracero:780058:s28443226.9491884.14059234.0.2.118%2Cstd_30949a3e505d41c597b8fb4f1f06bcc5"
rel=nofollow target=_blank><FONT
face="Times New Roman">http://s0.ilike.com/play#Phil+Ochs:Bracero:780058:s28443226.9491884.14059234.0.2.118%2Cstd_30949a3e505d41c597b8fb4f1f06bcc5</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">I'm Going to Say it now:<BR></FONT><A
href="http://s0.ilike.com/play#Phil+Ochs:I%27m+Going+To+Say+It+Now:645270:s19610031.9491884.14059234.0.2.45%2Cstd_2d5fb734a3e14ca29594204cac17b9a7"
rel=nofollow target=_blank><FONT
face="Times New Roman">http://s0.ilike.com/play#Phil+Ochs:I%27m+Going+To+Say+It+Now:645270:s19610031.9491884.14059234.0.2.45%2Cstd_2d5fb734a3e14ca29594204cac17b9a7</FONT></A><BR><BR></DIV>
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asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike
and asked for forgiveness.<BR>Whenever I fill out an application, in the part
that says "If an emergency, notify:" I put "DOCTOR". <BR>Why does someone
believe you when you say there are four billion stars, but check when you say
the paint is wet? <BR>Why do Americans choose from just two people to run for
president and 50 for Miss America ? <BR>Going to church doesn't make you a
Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. <BR>Light travels
faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them
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