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‎When I hear the word culture, I reach for my petri dish.<br>
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On 2/11/11 10:21 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
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I was poorly prepared, overlooked the parasiti, and elided and
eluded
the critical i.<br>
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the plan is clear though (if you read a little further)<br>
<br>
-<i> inpinguasti in oleo caput</i>.<br>
<br>
fry 'em in margarine till they're "Kaput".<br>
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in polite company they call that "marginalizing the opposition".<br>
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On 2/11/2011 10:58 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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I had to look up Quorum Sensing to see how clever this punning
is.<br>
<br>
Fisk's original use of "bacillus" implied a disease-causing
organism
(hope he's OK), so I hope you noticed the continuation of the
image in
the next line of the psalm:<br>
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<i> Virga tua et baculus tuus, ipsa me consolata sunt:
parasiti in
conspectu meo mensam adversus eos qui tribulant me.</i> <br>
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"Your rod and your staff have comforted me" - bacillus means a
little
rod, and Fisk says Mubarack was "sealed off from his (staff)
like a
bacillus" - <br>
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"but the parasites in my view are those who make trouble for my
Smart
Guy" [mensam - I suppose that means Suleiman]...<br>
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The complaint may be more general, so to speak, if "mensa" be
taken as
"organizational chart" [see "staff," above]... --CGE<br>
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On 2/11/11 3:14 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
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"<span style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size:
10pt;"><font color="#000000">sealed off from his ministers <u><b>like
a bacillus</b></u>" <br>
<br>
(like a bacillus???)<br>
<big><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br>
Not sure that I can verify the verisimilitude of the
simile but it is
worth a smile.<br>
<br>
</font></big></font></span><big><font face="Times New
Roman, Times, serif"><small>Mu Barak always
did remind me of some sort of single cell lifeform but I
would have <br>
thought him more like an Amoeba or maybe a Giardia.<br>
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</small></font></big><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"><font
color="#000000"><big><font face="Times New Roman, Times,
serif">This
probably accounts for the lack of Quorum Sensing?<br>
<br>
</font></big></font></span><big><font face="Times New
Roman, Times, serif"><small>"</small></font></big>Virga
tua et baculus tuus ipsa me consolata sunt.<big><font
face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><small>"<br>
</small><br>
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On 2/11/2011 11:05 AM, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
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cite="mid:07E8DE96-1E00-49DF-87E2-53826F83FE77@uiuc.edu"
type="cite">Here is Fisk's report of the happenings on
Feb.10, 2011.
He says "<i><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Yet
for
Mubarak's opponents, today will not be a day of joy and
rejoicing and
victory but a potential bloodbath."</font></i>
<div>Everyone is holding their breath.
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<h1><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
12px;">As Mubarak Clings
On... What Now For Egypt?</span></font></h1>
<p>The fury of a people whose hopes were raised and
then dashed</p>
<p class="byLine"><span id="date">February 11, 2011</span>
<br>
<br>
By <b>Robert Fisk</b> <br>
Source: Independent <br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://zcommunications.org/zspace/robertfisk">Robert
Fisk's
ZSpace Page</a> <br>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">To the
horror of Egyptians and the world, President
Hosni Mubarak – haggard and apparently
disoriented – appeared on state
television last night to refuse every demand of
his opponents by
staying in power for at least another five
months. The Egyptian army,
which had already initiated a virtual coup
d'état, was nonplussed by
the President's speech which had been widely
advertised – by both his
friends and his enemies – as a farewell address
after 30 years of
dictatorship. The vast crowds in Tahrir Square
were almost insane with
anger and resentment.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Mubarak
tried – unbelievably – to placate his
infuriated people with a promise to investigate
the killings of his
opponents in what he called "the unfortunate,
tragic events",
apparently unaware of the mass fury directed at
his dictatorship for
his three decades of corruption, brutality and
repression.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">The old
man had originally appeared ready to give up,
faced at last with the rage of millions of
Egyptians and the power of
history, sealed off from his ministers like a
bacillus, only grudgingly
permitted by his own army from saying goodbye to
the people who hated
him.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Yet the
very moment that Hosni Mubarak embarked on
what was supposed to be his final speech, he
made it clear that he
intended to cling to power. To the end, the
President's Information
Minister insisted he would not leave. There were
those who, to the very
last moment, feared that Mubarak's departure
would be cosmetic – even
though his presidency had evaporated in the face
of his army's decision
to take power earlier in the evening.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">History
may later decide that the army's lack of faith
in Mubarak effectively lost his presidency after
three decades of
dictatorship, secret police torture and
government corruption.
Confronted by even greater demonstrations on the
streets of Egypt
today, even the army could not guarantee the
safety of the nation. Yet
for Mubarak's opponents, today will not be a day
of joy and rejoicing
and victory but a potential bloodbath.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">But was
this a victory for Mubarak or a military coup
d'état? Can Egypt ever be free? For the army
generals to insist upon
his departure was as dramatic as it was
dangerous. Are they, a state
within a state, now truly the guardians of the
nation, defenders of the
people – or will they continue to support a man
who must be judged now
as close to insanity? The chains which bound the
military to the
corruption of Mubarak's regime were real. Are
they to stand by
democracy – or cement a new Mubarak regime?<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Even as
Mubarak was still speaking, the millions in
Tahrir Square roared their anger and fury and
disbelief. Of course, the
millions of courageous Egyptians who fought the
whole apparatus of
state security run by Mubarak should have been
the victors. But as
yesterday afternoon's events proved all too
clearly, it was the senior
generals – who enjoy the luxury of hotel chains,
shopping malls, real
estate and banking concessions from the same
corrupt regime – who
permitted Mubarak to survive. At an ominous
meeting of the Supreme
Council of the Egyptian Armed Forces, Defence
Minister Mohamed Tantawi
– one of Mubarak's closest friends – agreed to
meet the demands of the
millions of democracy protesters, without
stating that the regime would
itself be dissolved. Mubarak himself,
commander-in-chief of the army,
was not permitted to attend.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">But this
is a Middle Eastern epic, one of those
incremental moments when the Arab people –
forgotten, chastised,
infantilised, repressed, often beaten, tortured
too many times,
occasionally hanged – will still strive to give
the great wheel of
history a shove, and shake off the burden of
their lives. Last night,
however, dictatorship had still won. Democracy
had lost.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">All day,
the power of the people had grown as the
prestige of the President and his hollow party
collapsed. The vast
crowds in Tahrir Square began yesterday to move
out over all of central
Cairo, even moving behind the steel gates of the
People's Assembly,
setting up their tents in front of the
pseudo-Greek parliament building
in a demand for new and fair elections. Today,
they were planning to
enter the parliament itself, taking over the
symbol of Mubarak's fake
"democracy". Fierce arguments among the army
hierarchy – and apparently
between Vice-President Omar Suleiman and Mubarak
himself – continued
while strikes and industrial stoppages spread
across Egypt. Well over
seven million protesters were estimated to be on
the streets of Egypt
yesterday – the largest political demonstration
in the country's modern
history, greater even than the six million who
attended the funeral of
Gamal Abdul Nasser, the first Egyptian dictator
whose rule continued
through Anwar Sadat's vain presidency and the
three dead decades of
Mubarak.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">It was too
early, last night, for the crowds in Tahrir
Square to understand the legal complexities of
Mubarak's speech. But it
was patronising, self-serving and immensely
dangerous. The Egyptian
constitution insists that presidential power
must pass to the speaker
of parliament, a colourless Mubarak crony called
Fatih Srour, and
elections – fair ones, if this can be imagined –
held within 60 days.
But many believe that Suleiman may choose to
rule by some new emergency
law and then push Mubarak out of power, staking
out a timetable for new
and fraudulent elections and yet another
terrible epoch of
dictatorship. The truth, however, is that<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">the
millions of Egyptians who have tried to unseat
their Great Dictator regard their constitution –
and the judiciary and
the entire edifice of government institutions –
with the same contempt
as they do Mubarak. They want a new
constitution, new laws to limit the
powers and tenure of presidents, new and early
elections which will
reflect the "will of the people" rather than the
will of the president
or the transition president, or of generals and
brigadiers and state
security thugs.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Last
night, a military officer guarding the tens of
thousands celebrating in Cairo threw down his
rifle and joined the
demonstrators, yet another sign of the ordinary
Egyptian soldier's
growing sympathy for the democracy
demonstrators. We had witnessed many
similar sentiments from the army over the past
two weeks. But the
critical moment came on the evening of 30
January when, it is now
clear, Mubarak ordered the Egyptian Third Army
to crush the
demonstrators in Tahrir Square with their tanks
after flying F-16
fighter bombers at low level over the
protesters.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Many of
the senior tank commanders could be seen
tearing off their headsets – over which they had
received the fatal
orders – to use their mobile phones. They were,
it now transpires,
calling their own military families for advice.
Fathers who had spent
their lives serving the Egyptian army told their
sons to disobey, that
they must never kill their own people.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Thus when
General Hassan al-Rawani told the massive
crowds yesterday evening that "everything you
want will be realised –
all your demands will be met", the people cried
back: "The army and the
people stand together – the army and the people
are united. The army
and the people belong to one hand."<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">Last
night, the Cairo court prevented three ministers
– so far unnamed, although they almost certainly
inc-lude the Minister
of Interior – from leaving Egypt.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">But
neither the army nor Vice-President Suleiman are
likely to be able to face the far greater
demonstrations planned for
today, a fact that was conveyed to 83-year-old
Mubarak by Tantawi
himself, standing next to Suleiman. Tantawi and
another general –
believed to be the commander of the Cairo
military area – called
Washington, according to a senior Egyptian
officer, to pass on the news
to Robert Gates at the Pentagon. It must have
been a sobering moment.
For days, the White House had been grimly
observing the mass
demonstrations in Cairo, fearful that they would
turn into a mythical
Islamist monster, frightened that Mubarak might
leave, even more
terrified he might not.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#000000">The events
of the past 12 hours have not, alas, been a
victory for the West. American and European
leaders who rejoiced at the
fall of communist dictatorships have sat glumly
regarding the
extraordinary and wildly hopeful events in Cairo
– a victory of
morality over corruption and cruelty – with the
same enthusiasm as many
East European dictators watched the fall of
their Warsaw Pact nations.
Calls for stability and an "orderly" transition
of power were, in fact,
appeals for Mubarak to stay in power – as he is
still trying to do –
rather than a ringing endorsement of the demands
of the overwhelming
pro-democracy movement that should have struck
him down.<o:p></o:p></font></span></div>
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style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">Timeline...</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">11.00</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> As
demonstrators mass in Cairo's Tahrir Square, the
Foreign Minister warns
of a military coup if protests continue<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">15.15</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> The
Egyptian Prime Minister, Ahmed Shafiq, tells the
BBC Arabic Service
that Mubarak may step down<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">15.20</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> The
secretary general of the ruling NDP party,
Hossan Badrawy, says he
expects Mubarak to make an announcement that
will satisfy protesters'
demands<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">15.30</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> An
Egyptian army commander tells protesters in
Tahrir Square that:
"Everything you want will be realised"<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">15.45</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Egypt's
military council releases a statement saying it
is in continuous
session and the army will take necessary
measures to "safeguard the
homeland", in the clearest sign that Mubarak
will be on his way out soon<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">16.04</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> The
Information Minister, Anas el-Fekky, says
Mubarak is in fact not
stepping down and remains Egypt's President<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">16.15</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Al
Arabiya television station carries an
unconfirmed report that Mubarak
has travelled to the Red Sea resort of Sharm
el-Sheikh with his army
chief of staff<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">17.11</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> A
senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the
biggest opposition group,
says he fears the army is staging a coup<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <font
color="#000000"><b><span style="font-family:
'verdana','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">20.50</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Defying
expectations Mubarak speaks on state TV, giving
no indication that he
will step down soon<o:p></o:p></span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"><o:p><font color="#000000"> </font></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> <span
style="font-family: 'verdana','sans-serif';
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