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    [From the Libertarian website &lt;antiwar.com&gt;.&nbsp; The author is
    described as "a scientist who lives in Cambridge, Mass. He is a
    frequent contributor to CounterPunch.org."]<br>
    <br>
    Impeach Barack Obama<br>
    A Challenge to Tea Partiers and Antiwar Liberals<br>
    by John V. Walsh, March 24, 2011<br>
    <br>
    The time has come for those who claim high regard for the U.S.
    Constitution to show that they mean what they say.&nbsp; The time has
    come to begin impeachment proceedings against President Barack H.
    Obama for high crimes and misdemeanors.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    <br>
    The United States has initiated a war against Libya, as Secretary of
    Defense Robert Gates has conceded.&nbsp; When one country bombs another,
    which has not attacked it nor posed any immediate threat to it, that
    is an act of war.&nbsp; No "humanitarian" rationale justifies such an
    act.&nbsp; Only an act of Congress suffices according to the United
    States Constitution.&nbsp; Barack Obama has violated that provision of
    the United States Constitution, which he swore, falsely it is now
    apparent, to defend and protect.&nbsp; Barack Obama has committed this
    greatest of impeachable offenses. Other offenses related to torture
    and violation of the civil liberties of U. S. citizens may emerge as
    articles of impeachment are drawn up. <br>
    <br>
    Many Tea Party candidates and paleo-conservative and libertarian
    Republicans, such as Rep. Ron Paul, won office by declaring their
    high regard for the Constitution.&nbsp; Rep. Paul stated in advance of
    the attack on Libya that a Congressional declaration of war was
    necessary according to the provisions of the Constitution before an
    assault could proceed.&nbsp; If these Republicans do not act now to begin
    impeachment following the lead of the very principled Dr. Paul,
    their words meant nothing, and they should be turned out of office.
    <br>
    <br>
    Similarly antiwar liberals such as Dennis Kucinich backed candidate
    Barack Obama because of his promises of peace.&nbsp; But President Obama
    has given us ever more war.&nbsp; His pledge to end the war in Iraq by
    2009 turns out to be an empty promise, and he has widened the war in
    Afghanistan.&nbsp; He has also ordered the bombing of Pakistan, another
    act of war not authorized by Congress.&nbsp; If such liberals are genuine
    agents of peace, they too have an obligation to follow the lead of
    Kucinich who has used the term impeachment with respect to Barack
    Obama¡¯s behavior to initiate impeachment proceedings.&nbsp; Otherwise
    they are poseurs, and they should be turned out of office. <br>
    <br>
    Barack Obama can himself be called as the first witness to the
    hearings on his impeachment, so obvious is his crime.&nbsp; In 2008 as a
    candidate for the presidency he replied as follows to a question
    from the Boston Globe¡¯s Charlie Savage. <br>
    <br>
    Savage:" In what circumstances, if any, would the president have
    constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force
    authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic
    bombing of suspected nuclear sites ¡ª a situation that does not
    involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)<br>
    <br>
    Obama: "The President does not have power under the Constitution to
    unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does
    not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." <br>
    <br>
    High members of his administration agree and might provide ancillary
    testimony.&nbsp; Vice President Joseph Biden has declared: "The
    Constitution is clear: except in response to an attack or the
    imminent threat of attack, only Congress may authorize war and the
    use of force." Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was of the same
    opinion: "If the country is under truly imminent threat of attack,
    of course the President must take appropriate action to defend us.
    At the same time, the Constitution requires Congress to authorize
    war. I do not believe that the President can take military action ¨C
    including any kind of strategic bombing ¨C against Iran without
    congressional authorization."<br>
    <br>
    Barack Obama has further isolated the U.S. in the world by going to
    war against Libya, contrary to his claims of being a part of a broad
    international effort.&nbsp; This can only do more damage to our country,
    bleeding now with so many problems.&nbsp; Consider the vote in UN
    Security Council. Michael Lind informs us of the demographics and
    power relationships lying behind the UN vote as follows: "In the
    vote to authorize war against Libya, the U.S., Britain and France
    joined by Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria,
    Portugal and South Africa. Abstaining from the vote were five
    countries: Brazil, Russia, India, China and Germany."<br>
    <br>
    "What do the five countries that registered their opposition to the
    Libyan war have in common? They make up most of the great powers of
    the early twenty-first century. A few years back, Goldman Sachs
    identified the so-called "BRIC¡¯s" ¡ª Brazil, Russia, India and China
    ¡ª as the most important emerging countries in the world. The
    opponents of the Libyan war on the Security Council are the BRIC¡¯s
    plus Germany, the most populous and richest country in Europe."<br>
    <br>
    "Including the United States, the Security Council nations that
    voted for the no-fly zone resolution have a combined population of a
    little more than 700 million people and a combined GDP, in terms of
    purchasing power parity, of roughly $20 trillion. The Security
    Council countries that showed their disapproval of the Libyan war by
    abstaining from the vote have a combined population of about 3
    billion people and a GDP of around $21 trillion."<br>
    <br>
    "If the U.S. is factored out, the disproportion between the pro-war
    and anti-war camps on the Security Council is even more striking.
    The countries that abstained from the vote account for more than 40
    percent of the human race. The countries that joined the U.S. in
    voting to authorize attacks on Libya, including Britain and France,
    have a combined population that adds up to a little more than 5
    percent of the human race."<br>
    <br>
    The situation appears worse the more one regards it. Lebanon¡¯s
    government controls only part of its territory. Gabon is a statelet
    with a mere 1.6 million people, smaller than many American cities.&nbsp;
    And the UN ambassadors of two of the countries who sided with the
    U.S., Nigeria and South Africa, were not present when the vote was
    scheduled to be taken.&nbsp; Ambassador Rice had to leave the Security
    Council chamber, find them and usher them in herself.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    <br>
    Partisan considerations should not impede the move to impeach Barack
    Obama.&nbsp; When George W. Bush was president, many on the Democratic
    Party Left called for his impeachment.&nbsp; They must do the same for
    President Obama who has more clearly violated the Constitution than
    President Bush since he did not even seek the dubious Congressional
    "authorization" which George W. Bush asked for and received.&nbsp; If the
    Left cannot do this, its credibility will be in shambles, and quite
    deservedly so.&nbsp; On the other side clearly there is reason to indict
    Bush, and some on the Left are calling for that as are certain
    authorities in European countries where the former President dare
    not go.&nbsp; But at the moment Barack Obama is in charge and capable of
    greater damage if he is not stopped by impeachment.&nbsp; Impeachment of
    Barack Obama can no longer be avoided. <br>
    <br>
    President Barack Obama has violated the U.S. Constitution and
    employed the armed forces of the U.S. as a king¡¯s army.&nbsp; The U.S.
    made its revolution to escape such a predicament, and if this
    usurper of Congressional authority is not stopped and punished,
    these crimes will continue under each succeeding executive.&nbsp; This
    must end and it must end now.&nbsp; Impeachment proceedings must begin at
    once. <br>
    <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2011/03/23/impeach-barack-obama/">http://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2011/03/23/impeach-barack-obama/</a><br>
    <br>
    On 3/23/11 9:32 AM, Corey Mattson wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTimuJL0igfr+bN3qGK2AnA2sGftU37KGusADYdoo@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">I'm not sure where this comes from. "Little faith in
      the evangelism of your ideology?" I threw out evangelism with the
      religion of my childhood.<br>
      <br>
      Of course I'm all for people educating each other and people
      disagreeing with each other. Anyone who is anti-war can come to
      our BNCPJ meetings, educationals and rallies. The Randists
      (followers of Ayn Rand) can attend the BNCPJ meetings, but choose
      not to, apparently because they don't want to be associated with
      the anti-war arguments from the Left. Sometimes 2-4 attend our
      rallies and some are nonparticipating members of our listserv.
      That's fine, that's their choice. Again, for strategic reasons,
      what I'm opposed to is an alliance with right-wing groups that do
      not share our movement goals and values, act in an unprincipled
      manner, organize in and belong to a movement (Tea Party) that is
      heavily reactionary and is not anti-war, and would use such an
      alliance with the Left to strengthen their movement. I think the
      goal of the anti-war movement should be to deepen anti-war
      sentiment in unions (through USLAW), reach out to people being
      attacked by austerity policies (the poor, workers), and that these
      goals work contrary to an alliance with Tea Partiers who are part
      of the attack against workers and the poor. This is a strategic
      question. It has little to do with the warm-fuzzy feelings of
      inclusiveness.<br>
      <br>
      Also, the strength of a group or movement involves much more than
      the ability to convince others. A group can be stronger based on
      the money it receives, as well as the extent to which its views
      coincide with ruling ideas. From what I can see, both the Tea
      Party and Libertarian groups can outspend groups on the Left at
      the local level, another reason not to enter into coalitions that
      will further help them when they already have an advantage. On the
      flip side, I don't see a much stronger anti-war movement resulting
      from such a right/left alliance. Given that AWARE seems to have
      accepted the right-left coalition perspective, are people beating
      down your doors to attend your meetings or rallies?<br>
      <br>
      --- Corey, BNCPJ<br>
      &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2011/3/23 "E. Wayne Johnson ÖìÎÈÉ­" <span
          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</a>&gt;</span><br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
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          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
            Corey,<br>
            It seems that you have quite little faith in the evangelism
            of your
            ideology.&nbsp; If you can't teach others your views and convince
            others
            that you are correct one wonders what is wrong.&nbsp; If you
            think that the
            non-followers are unteachable that seems xenophobic, perhaps
            even
            Racist to me.<br>
            <br>
            Perhaps you arent working hard enough on articulating your
            ideology in
            such a way that it would be universally acceptable.<br>
            <br>
            Of course there is yet another possibility.
            <div>
              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On 2011-3-23 10:17, Corey Mattson wrote:
                <blockquote type="cite">My opposition to a coalition
                  with the Right has little to
                  do with Absolute Ideological Purity. This is a straw
                  man argument. I,
                  and others with my view, work quite closely with
                  people from my union,
                  progressive organizations, veteran's organizations,
                  etc. I'm opposed to
                  such a coalition because it can damage the sort of
                  anti-war coalition
                  we should be trying to build - including working
                  people, involving
                  unions, racially inclusive, etc. And, frankly, I'm not
                  interested in
                  helping the Randists build their movement and be able
                  to put forward
                  their own reactionary agenda.<br>
                  <br>
                  Until we get hundreds of thousands, millions of
                  people, in the streets,
                  the wars will continue. I really don't see that coming
                  from the Tea
                  Party, since they only protest government spending
                  when it is for human
                  need. As for individual Libertarians and Republicans,
                  I believe the
                  strength of our movement comes from its independence
                  from business
                  politicians. We shouldn't subordinate an anti-war
                  movement to any
                  politicians or party groups, whether they be Ron Paul,
                  the Democrats,
                  the Libertarian Party, or MoveOn.<br>
                  <br>
                  --- Corey <br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:39
                    PM, "E. Wayne
                    Johnson ÖìÎÈÉ­" <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag"
                        target="_blank">ewj@pigs.ag</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:
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                      <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">The "No, No,
                        No, Absolutely
                        No" that would have been my knee-jerk
                        response was probably too strong a statement.&nbsp;
                        And after all, the
                        American Pharoahs have proven willing to proceed
                        on their own.&nbsp; Abstain
                        may have been the most peaceful and quietistic
                        form of No, although a
                        principled veto directed to the right ventricle
                        seems appropriate to
                        me.&nbsp; <br>
                        <br>
                        No use to be rude about it.&nbsp; Let the other guy
                        wear the millstone on
                        his ardourous neck.
                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            On 2011-3-23 7:54, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
                            <blockquote type="cite">--The inscrutable
                              and amoral world of
                              geopolitics/foreign
                              relations. The inscrutable oriental mind
                              (?) comes to mind.&nbsp;
                              <div><br>
                                <div>
                                  <div>On Mar 22, 2011, at 6:28 PM, E.
                                    Wayne Johnson ÖìÎÈÉ­ wrote:</div>
                                  <br>
                                  <blockquote type="cite">
                                    <div bgcolor="#ffffff"
                                      text="#000000">I thought that too,
                                      Mort.&nbsp; <br>
                                      <br>
                                      Amazingly, I was not consulted.&nbsp; <br>
                                      <br>
                                      I suppose the local PTB decided I
                                      was too busy teaching pig farmers
                                      down in Jiangsu to be bothered
                                      with such trivial matters that
                                      they
                                      could manage on their own.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      My interpretation is that a
                                      vetoing No by those who could veto
                                      would
                                      have been interpreted as an act of
                                      aggression against those with
                                      ardor
                                      for the resolution.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      On 2011-3-23 6:07, Morton K.
                                      Brussel wrote:
                                      <blockquote type="cite">So why did
                                        China abstain, instead of
                                        vetoing, the UN
                                        Security Council resolution?
                                        <div>--mkb</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>On Mar 22, 2011, at
                                              11:58 AM, E. Wayne Johnson
                                              ÖìÎÈÉ­ wrote:</div>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div bgcolor="#ffffff"
                                                text="#000000"><font
                                                  face="Times New Roman,
                                                  Times, serif">This
                                                  statement about
                                                  opposition to use of
                                                  force and recognition
                                                  of Sovereignty seems
                                                  to come
                                                  directly from
                                                  Libertarian
                                                  fundamentals, albeit
                                                  from a somewhat
                                                  unexpected source.&nbsp;
                                                  Given such a "message
                                                  in a unknown tongue"
                                                  (in this
                                                  case, Mandarin
                                                  Putonghua Chinese) one
                                                  could hardly refrain
                                                  from the
                                                  "amen" given the clear
                                                  interpretation
                                                  provided in standard
                                                  English.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  When I saw it on
                                                  CCTV9, I told Dr.
                                                  Qiao, "Hey, this guy
                                                  is a
                                                  Libertarian!"&nbsp;&nbsp; She
                                                  smiled.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </font>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">BEIJING,
March
                                                    18
                                                    (Xinhua) -- China on
                                                    Friday said it had
                                                    serious reservations
                                                    with part
                                                    of the latest U.N.
                                                    resolution on Libya.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">"<font
                                                      color="#cc0000">We
                                                      oppose
                                                      the use of force
                                                      in international
                                                      relations</font>
                                                    and have some
                                                    serious reservations
                                                    with part of the
                                                    resolution," Foreign
                                                    Ministry
                                                    spokeswoman Jiang Yu
                                                    said in a statement
                                                    on Friday.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">Jiang's
comments
came
after
                                                    the United Nations
                                                    Security Council
                                                    adopted a resolution
                                                    which
                                                    authorized a no-fly
                                                    zone over Libya
                                                    Thursday.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">The
resolution
also
called
                                                    for "all necessary
                                                    measures," excluding
                                                    ground troops, to
                                                    "protect civilians
                                                    and civilian
                                                    populated areas
                                                    under threat of
                                                    attack"
                                                    in Libya, "including
                                                    Benghazi," a key
                                                    eastern city
                                                    currently held by
                                                    the rebels.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">"Considering
the
concern
and
                                                    stance of Arab
                                                    countries and the
                                                    Africa Union as well
                                                    as the
                                                    special situation in
                                                    Libya, China and
                                                    some countries
                                                    abstained from
                                                    voting on the draft
                                                    resolution," Jiang
                                                    said.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">Apart
                                                    from
                                                    China,
                                                    Russia,
                                                    a permanent Council
                                                    member with veto
                                                    power, and Brazil,
                                                    Germany and
                                                    India, the three
                                                    non-permanent
                                                    Council members,
                                                    also abstained from
                                                    voting on the draft
                                                    resolution.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">"We
                                                    support
                                                    the
                                                    commitment of the UN
                                                    Secretary General's
                                                    special envoy for
                                                    Libya, the
                                                    Africa Union and
                                                    Arab League to deal
                                                    with the current
                                                    crisis in Libya
                                                    in a peaceful way,"
                                                    Jiang said.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif"><font
                                                      color="#cc0000">China
has
always
                                                      maintained that
                                                      actions of the UN
                                                      Security Council
                                                      should
                                                      follow the
                                                      objective and
                                                      principle of the
                                                      UN Charter and
                                                      international
                                                      laws, respect
                                                      Libya's
                                                      sovereignty,
                                                      independence,
                                                      unification and
                                                      territorial
                                                      integrity</font>,
                                                    Jiang said.</font></p>
                                                <p><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">"<font
                                                      color="#cc0000">The
current
crisis
                                                      in Libya should be
                                                      resolved through
                                                      dialogue</font> <font
                                                      color="#cc0000">and
                                                      by other peaceful
                                                      means," Jiang
                                                      said.</font></font></p>
                                                <p><font color="#cc0000"
                                                    face="Times New
                                                    Roman, Times, serif">"We
expect
Libya
                                                    to restore stability
                                                    at an early date and
                                                    avoid an
                                                    escalation of armed
                                                    conflicts and
                                                    worsening
                                                    humanitarian
                                                    crisis," Jiang
                                                    said. </font></p>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                On 2011-3-23 0:02, C. G.
                                                Estabrook wrote:
                                                <blockquote type="cite">"[Rep.
Ron
                                                  Paul] said his
                                                  opposition to the wars
                                                  in Iraq and
                                                  Afghanistan give him
                                                  an edge over other
                                                  Republicans and could
                                                  help him
                                                  defeat President
                                                  Barack Obama in a
                                                  national election. At
                                                  CPAC, Paul
                                                  drew thunderous
                                                  applause for bashing
                                                  the Patriot Act, US
                                                  aid to foreign
                                                  nations, and US
                                                  military bases
                                                  overseas during his
                                                  speech. The
                                                  conservative group
                                                  Young Americans for
                                                  Freedom (YAF) later
                                                  announced
                                                  that he would be
                                                  expelled from the
                                                  group's National
                                                  Advisory Board
                                                  because of his
                                                  'delusional and
                                                  disturbing alliance
                                                  with the fringe
                                                  Anti-War movement.'"<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  &nbsp;&nbsp; Rep. Ron Paul wins
                                                  another Republican
                                                  presidential straw
                                                  poll<br>
                                                  &nbsp;&nbsp; By Eric W. Dolan<br>
                                                  &nbsp;&nbsp; March 21, 2011 @
                                                  8:14 pm<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Texas Congressman Ron
                                                  Paul beat out top
                                                  Republican
                                                  presidential
                                                  hopefuls Mitt Romney
                                                  and Newt Gingrich in a
                                                  straw poll for the
                                                  second
                                                  time this year.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Nearly 18 percent of
                                                  Republicans voted for
                                                  Rep. Paul in the straw
                                                  poll
                                                  conducted at a GOP
                                                  Convention in
                                                  Sacramento on
                                                  Saturday.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  He was followed by
                                                  former governor Mitt
                                                  Romney, who received
                                                  10.9
                                                  percent of the vote
                                                  and 2010 president
                                                  candidate Sarah Palin,
                                                  who
                                                  received 7.9 percent
                                                  of the vote. Former
                                                  House Speaker Newt
                                                  Gingrich
                                                  came in fourth place,
                                                  with 6.9 percent of
                                                  the vote.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  The informal survey
                                                  was conducted by the
                                                  libertarian-leaning
                                                  Republican
                                                  Liberty Caucus of
                                                  California [1]
                                                  (RLCCA).<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  "Given that
                                                  Congressman Paul and
                                                  the RLC share a common
                                                  commitment to
                                                  individual rights,
                                                  limited government,
                                                  free enterprise and
                                                  constitutional
                                                  principles we are
                                                  happy with the
                                                  results," RLCCA
                                                  Chairman John Dennis
                                                  said. "In these times
                                                  of big government and
                                                  even
                                                  bigger deficits, it is
                                                  exciting to see
                                                  increased conservative
                                                  interest
                                                  in candidates such as
                                                  Paul."<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  The results of the
                                                  RLCCA poll reflect
                                                  another presidential
                                                  straw poll
                                                  conducted at the
                                                  Conservative Political
                                                  Action Conference [2]
                                                  (CPAC) in
                                                  February, where Paul
                                                  took 30 percent of the
                                                  vote, followed by Mitt
                                                  Romney with 23
                                                  percent.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Paul describes himself
                                                  as a libertarian and
                                                  is hardly the party's
                                                  typical standard
                                                  bearer.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  He has said his
                                                  opposition to the wars
                                                  in Iraq and
                                                  Afghanistan [3] give
                                                  him an edge over other
                                                  Republicans and could
                                                  help him defeat
                                                  President
                                                  Barack Obama in a
                                                  national election.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  At CPAC, Paul drew
                                                  thunderous applause
                                                  for bashing the
                                                  Patriot Act, US
                                                  aid to foreign
                                                  nations, and US
                                                  military bases
                                                  overseas during his
                                                  speech. The
                                                  conservative group
                                                  Young Americans for
                                                  Freedom (YAF) later
                                                  announced that he
                                                  would be expelled from
                                                  the group's National
                                                  Advisory
                                                  Board because of his
                                                  "delusional and
                                                  disturbing alliance
                                                  with the
                                                  fringe Anti-War
                                                  movement."<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  URL to article: <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/21/rep-ron-paul-wins-another-republican-presidential-straw-poll/"
                                                    target="_blank">http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/21/rep-ron-paul-wins-another-republican-presidential-straw-poll/</a><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  URLs in this post:<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  [1] Republican Liberty
                                                  Caucus of California:
                                                  <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rlc.org/2011/03/21/ca-gop-convention/" target="_blank">http://www.rlc.org/2011/03/21/ca-gop-convention/</a><br>
                                                  [2] straw poll
                                                  conducted at the
                                                  Conservative Political
                                                  Action
                                                  Conference: <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/12/ron-paul-wins-cpac-presidential-straw-poll/"
                                                    target="_blank">http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/12/ron-paul-wins-cpac-presidential-straw-poll/</a><br>
                                                  [3] said his
                                                  opposition to the wars
                                                  in Iraq and
                                                  Afghanistan: <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/14/congressman-ron-paul-slams-obama-hes-a-warmonger/"
                                                    target="_blank">http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/14/congressman-ron-paul-slams-obama-hes-a-warmonger/</a><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  On 3/22/11 10:16 AM,
                                                  C. G. Estabrook wrote:
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    type="cite">The
                                                    so-called Tea Party
                                                    is as we
                                                    know a mood rather
                                                    than a
                                                    movement,
                                                    much less a party,
                                                    and is even more
                                                    various than the
                                                    anti-war
                                                    movement.&nbsp; Unlike
                                                    the antiwar
                                                    movement, it has
                                                    moneyed interests
                                                    (such
                                                    as the Koch
                                                    brothers) and
                                                    traditional
                                                    political groups
                                                    that re trying
                                                    to co-opt it.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    But we can't simply
                                                    ignore the anti-war
                                                    currents within the
                                                    TP/Libertarians,
                                                    e.g.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    ~ the Ron Paul
                                                    movement: Paul won
                                                    the straw poll for
                                                    president at both
                                                    recent CPACs; he's
                                                    been consistently
                                                    anti-war,
                                                    anti-intervention,
                                                    anti-Pentagon.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    ~ &lt;<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://antiwar.com/" target="_blank">antiwar.com</a>&gt;,
                                                    one
                                                    of the best sites on
                                                    the web, is a
                                                    Libertarian site.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    ~ paleo-conservative
                                                    elements, such as
                                                    the journal American
                                                    Conservative, have
                                                    been against the
                                                    neo-con wars in
                                                    principle from the
                                                    beginning; Pat
                                                    Buchanan has
                                                    attacked the Libyan
                                                    adventure as
                                                    unconstitutional
                                                    (which it is). <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    For the anti-war
                                                    movement itself, the
                                                    co-option has
                                                    already taken
                                                    place, by the
                                                    Democrats and Obama.
                                                    We forget that the
                                                    Democrats were
                                                    given control of
                                                    Congress in 2006
                                                    specifically to end
                                                    the war, as they
                                                    recognized.&nbsp; The
                                                    firing of Rumsfeld
                                                    after the election
                                                    was the
                                                    administration's
                                                    recognition of the
                                                    fact. But the
                                                    Democrats quite
                                                    consciously and
                                                    cynically pissed it
                                                    way - e.g., with
                                                    "timelines" - when
                                                    they could have
                                                    de-funded the wars
                                                    (which required only
                                                    41 votes in the
                                                    Senate) in the SE
                                                    Asia and LA were
                                                    finally defunded.&nbsp;
                                                    Then the
                                                    coup-de-grace was
                                                    provided by Obama's
                                                    smiling lies and the
                                                    foolish
                                                    trust that so many
                                                    people who should
                                                    have known better
                                                    put in him.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Remember that the
                                                    antiwar movement of
                                                    the 1960s grew up in
                                                    opposition
                                                    to both business
                                                    parties.&nbsp; There were
                                                    attempts to co-opt
                                                    it, notably by
                                                    Robert Kennedy and
                                                    Richard Nixon.&nbsp;
                                                    Nixon (whom Obama
                                                    much resembles in
                                                    this regard) was
                                                    elected in 1968 as
                                                    the "peace
                                                    candidate" because
                                                    in
                                                    part it was widely
                                                    believed that he had
                                                    "a secret plan for
                                                    ending the
                                                    war."<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Events of this week
                                                    have shown once
                                                    again how much a new
                                                    antiwar
                                                    movement of that
                                                    sort is required.&nbsp;
                                                    The percent of the
                                                    population
                                                    opposed to the
                                                    administration's
                                                    wars is now about
                                                    where&nbsp; it was in
                                                    1968.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Regards, Carl<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    On 3/22/11 9:13 AM,
                                                    Corey Mattson wrote:
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      type="cite">I
                                                      support what Iraq
                                                      Veterans
                                                      Against the War
                                                      did in
                                                      Madison on March
                                                      12 --- bring the
                                                      anti-war cause to
                                                      our natural
                                                      allies,
                                                      workers and
                                                      students <i>fighting</i>
                                                      the Tea Party.
                                                      When I was in
                                                      Madison February
                                                      19th, there were
                                                      about 1,000 Tea
                                                      Party
                                                      counter-demonstrators
                                                      to our 80,000.
                                                      Those 1,000 Tea
                                                      Party activists
                                                      were way more than
                                                      any of their
                                                      number ever
                                                      protesting the
                                                      war.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      An anti-war Tea
                                                      Party movement?
                                                      Where is it?
                                                      Fledgling
                                                      right-wing
                                                      libertarian groups
                                                      clearly haven't
                                                      been that
                                                      successful in
                                                      bringing
                                                      them to the
                                                      anti-war cause.
                                                      It's not worth
                                                      diluting the
                                                      substance of
                                                      our opposition to
                                                      the war to attract
                                                      a handful of
                                                      libertarians who
                                                      are
                                                      opposed to the war
                                                      for the wrong
                                                      reasons and are
                                                      our enemy on
                                                      practically every
                                                      other issue. In
                                                      the proposed
                                                      movement to "Stop
                                                      the
                                                      War, Stop the
                                                      Spending," what
                                                      are left-wingers
                                                      supposed to say
                                                      when
                                                      their right-wing
                                                      partners attack
                                                      the poor, bust our
                                                      unions, and make
                                                      U.S. capitalism
                                                      even more savage
                                                      and inhumane?<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      By the way, in the
                                                      piece below, David
                                                      Boaz gets the
                                                      timeline wrong as
                                                      to when the
                                                      anti-war movement
                                                      weakened, and I
                                                      believe he does it
                                                      purposefully for
                                                      political points.
                                                      The anti-war
                                                      movement was
                                                      already
                                                      seriously weakened
                                                      by 2006, maybe as
                                                      early as 2005, as
                                                      demoralization
                                                      set in. Surely
                                                      hopes in a
                                                      electoral victory
                                                      played a role, but
                                                      there
                                                      was no sudden
                                                      death of the
                                                      movement upon
                                                      Obama's election.
                                                      If Boaz is
                                                      going to blame the
                                                      Democrats for the
                                                      movement's demise,
                                                      he should at
                                                      least get it
                                                      right. I suspect
                                                      that he wasn't
                                                      involved in the
                                                      anti-war
                                                      movement back then
                                                      and wouldn't know
                                                      what happened.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      --- Corey&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
                                                      Bloomington-Normal
                                                      Citizens for Peace
                                                      and Justice<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <div
                                                        class="gmail_quote">On
                                                        Mon, Mar 21,
                                                        2011 at
                                                        11:29
                                                        PM, C.
                                                        G.
                                                        Estabrook <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu"
                                                          target="_blank">galliher@illinois.edu</a>&gt;</span>
                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="border-left:
                                                          1px solid
                                                          rgb(204, 204,
                                                          204); margin:
                                                          0pt 0pt 0pt
                                                          0.8ex;
                                                          padding-left:
                                                          1ex;">[From
                                                          a
                                                          director
                                                          of
                                                          the
                                                          'libertarian'
                                                          Cato
                                                          Institute.]<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "...the
                                                          $64,000
                                                          question ¡ª
                                                          though these
                                                          days it would
                                                          have to be at
                                                          least a $64
                                                          billion
                                                          question ¡ª
                                                          could a new
                                                          antiwar
                                                          movement hook
                                                          up
                                                          with the Tea
                                                          Party movement
                                                          in a Stop the
                                                          War, Stop the
                                                          Spending
                                                          revolt?"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          What Ever
                                                          Happened to
                                                          the Antiwar
                                                          Movement?<br>
                                                          David Boaz -
                                                          March 21, 2011<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          About 100
                                                          antiwar
                                                          protesters,
                                                          including
                                                          Daniel
                                                          Ellsberg of
                                                          Pentagon
                                                          Papers fame,
                                                          were arrested
                                                          Saturday
                                                          outside the
                                                          White House in
                                                          demonstrations
                                                          marking the
                                                          eighth
                                                          anniversary of
                                                          the U.S.-led
                                                          war in
                                                          Iraq. It¡¯s a
                                                          far cry from
                                                          the Bush
                                                          years, when
                                                          hundreds of
                                                          thousands or
                                                          millions
                                                          marched
                                                          against the
                                                          war, and the
                                                          New York Times
                                                          declared
                                                          ¡°world public
                                                          opinion¡±
                                                          against the
                                                          war a second
                                                          superpower.
                                                          Will
                                                          President
                                                          Obama¡®s
                                                          military
                                                          incursion in a
                                                          third Muslim
                                                          country revive
                                                          the antiwar
                                                          movement?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On a street
                                                          corner in
                                                          Washington,
                                                          D.C., outside
                                                          the Cato
                                                          Institute,
                                                          there¡¯s a
                                                          metal box that
                                                          controls
                                                          traffic
                                                          signals.
                                                          During the
                                                          Bush
                                                          years there
                                                          was hardly a
                                                          day that it
                                                          didn¡¯t sport a
                                                          poster
                                                          advertising
                                                          an antiwar
                                                          march or
                                                          simply
                                                          denouncing
                                                          President
                                                          George W. Bush
                                                          and the
                                                          war in Iraq.
                                                          But the
                                                          marches and
                                                          the posters
                                                          seemed to stop
                                                          on election
                                                          day 2008.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Maybe antiwar
                                                          organizers
                                                          assumed that
                                                          they had
                                                          elected the
                                                          man who
                                                          would stop the
                                                          war. After
                                                          all, Barack
                                                          Obama rose to
                                                          power on the
                                                          basis
                                                          of his early
                                                          opposition to
                                                          the Iraq war
                                                          and his
                                                          promise to end
                                                          it. But
                                                          after two
                                                          years in the
                                                          White House he
                                                          has made both
                                                          of George
                                                          Bush¡¯s
                                                          wars his wars.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          In October
                                                          2007, Obama
                                                          proclaimed, ¡°I
                                                          will promise
                                                          you this, that
                                                          if we
                                                          have not
                                                          gotten our
                                                          troops out by
                                                          the time I am
                                                          president, it
                                                          is the
                                                          first thing I
                                                          will do. I
                                                          will get our
                                                          troops home.
                                                          We will bring
                                                          an end
                                                          to this war.
                                                          You can take
                                                          that to the
                                                          bank.¡±
                                                          Speaking of
                                                          Iraq in
                                                          February 2008,
                                                          candidate
                                                          Barack Obama
                                                          said, ¡°I
                                                          opposed this
                                                          war in
                                                          2002. I will
                                                          bring this war
                                                          to an end in
                                                          2009. It is
                                                          time to bring
                                                          our
                                                          troops home.¡±
                                                          The following
                                                          month, under
                                                          fire from
                                                          Hillary
                                                          Clinton, he
                                                          reiterated, ¡°I
                                                          was opposed to
                                                          this war in
                                                          2002¡­.I have
                                                          been against
                                                          it
                                                          in 2002, 2003,
                                                          2004, 5, 6, 7,
                                                          8 and I will
                                                          bring this war
                                                          to an end in
                                                          2009. So don¡¯t
                                                          be confused.¡±<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Indeed, in his
                                                          famous ¡°the
                                                          moment when
                                                          the rise of
                                                          the oceans
                                                          began to
                                                          slow¡± speech
                                                          on the night
                                                          he clinched
                                                          the Democratic
                                                          nomination, he
                                                          also
                                                          proclaimed, ¡°I
                                                          am absolutely
                                                          certain that
                                                          generations
                                                          from now we
                                                          will be able
                                                          to look back
                                                          and tell our
                                                          children that
                                                          . . . this was
                                                          the
                                                          moment when we
                                                          ended a war.¡±<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Today,
                                                          however, he
                                                          has tripled
                                                          President
                                                          Bush¡¯s troop
                                                          levels in
                                                          Afghanistan,
                                                          and we have
                                                          been fighting
                                                          there for more
                                                          than nine
                                                          years.
                                                          The Pentagon
                                                          has declared
                                                          ¡°the official
                                                          end to
                                                          Operation
                                                          Iraqi Freedom
                                                          and combat
                                                          operations by
                                                          United States
                                                          forces in
                                                          Iraq,¡± but we
                                                          still
                                                          have 50,000
                                                          troops there,
                                                          hardly what
                                                          Senator Obama
                                                          promised.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          And now Libya.
                                                          In various
                                                          recent polls
                                                          more than
                                                          two-thirds of
                                                          Americans have
                                                          opposed
                                                          military
                                                          intervention
                                                          in Libya. No
                                                          doubt many of
                                                          them voted for
                                                          President
                                                          Obama.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          There¡¯s
                                                          another issue
                                                          with the
                                                          Libyan
                                                          intervention:
                                                          the
                                                          president¡¯s
                                                          authority to
                                                          take the
                                                          country to war
                                                          without
                                                          congressional
                                                          authorization.
                                                          As many
                                                          bloggers noted
                                                          over the
                                                          weekend, in
                                                          2007 Barack
                                                          Obama told
                                                          Charlie Savage
                                                          of the Boston
                                                          Globe,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The President
                                                          does not have
                                                          power under
                                                          the
                                                          Constitution
                                                          to
                                                          unilaterally
                                                          authorize a
                                                          military
                                                          attack in a
                                                          situation that
                                                          does not
                                                          involve
                                                          stopping an
                                                          actual or
                                                          imminent
                                                          threat to the
                                                          nation.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Candidate
                                                          Hillary
                                                          Clinton spoke
                                                          similarly:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If the country
                                                          is under truly
                                                          imminent
                                                          threat of
                                                          attack, of
                                                          course the
                                                          President must
                                                          take
                                                          appropriate
                                                          action to
                                                          defend us. At
                                                          the same time,
                                                          the
                                                          Constitution
                                                          requires
                                                          Congress to
                                                          authorize war.
                                                          I do not
                                                          believe
                                                          that the
                                                          President can
                                                          take military
                                                          action ¨C
                                                          including any
                                                          kind of
                                                          strategic
                                                          bombing ¨C
                                                          against Iran
                                                          without
                                                          congressional
                                                          authorization.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          And candidate
                                                          Joe Biden:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The
                                                          Constitution
                                                          is clear:
                                                          except in
                                                          response to an
                                                          attack or the
                                                          imminent
                                                          threat of
                                                          attack, only
                                                          Congress may
                                                          authorize war
                                                          and the use
                                                          of force.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Fine words
                                                          indeed. Will
                                                          their
                                                          supporters
                                                          call them on
                                                          their apparent
                                                          reversal?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It¡¯s hard to
                                                          escape the
                                                          conclusion
                                                          that antiwar
                                                          activity in
                                                          the United
                                                          States and
                                                          around the
                                                          world was
                                                          driven as much
                                                          by antipathy
                                                          to George
                                                          W. Bush as by
                                                          actual
                                                          opposition to
                                                          war and
                                                          intervention.
                                                          Indeed, a
                                                          University of
                                                          Michigan study
                                                          of antiwar
                                                          protesters
                                                          found that
                                                          Democrats
                                                          tended to
                                                          withdraw from
                                                          antiwar
                                                          activity as
                                                          Obama found
                                                          increasing
                                                          political
                                                          success and
                                                          then took
                                                          office.
                                                          Independents
                                                          and members of
                                                          third parties
                                                          came to make
                                                          up a larger
                                                          share of a
                                                          smaller
                                                          movement.
                                                          Reason.tv
                                                          looked at the
                                                          dwindling
                                                          antiwar
                                                          movement two
                                                          months ago.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          With his
                                                          launch of a
                                                          third military
                                                          action,
                                                          President
                                                          Obama seems to
                                                          have forgotten
                                                          a point made
                                                          by Temple
                                                          University
                                                          professor Jan
                                                          C. Ting:
                                                          ¡°Wars are easy
                                                          to begin, but
                                                          hard to end.¡±
                                                          Americans
                                                          haven¡¯t
                                                          forgotten,
                                                          though.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Nearly
                                                          two-thirds of
                                                          Americans now
                                                          say that the
                                                          war in
                                                          Afghanistan
                                                          hasn¡¯t been
                                                          worth
                                                          fighting, a
                                                          number that
                                                          has soared
                                                          since early
                                                          2010.
                                                          Where are
                                                          their leaders?
                                                          Where are the
                                                          senators
                                                          pushing for
                                                          withdrawal?
                                                          Where are the
                                                          organizations?
                                                          Could a new,
                                                          non-Democratic
                                                          antiwar
                                                          movement do to
                                                          Obama what the
                                                          mid-2000s
                                                          movement did
                                                          to Bush? And
                                                          the
                                                          $64,000
                                                          question ¡ª
                                                          though these
                                                          days it would
                                                          have to be at
                                                          least a $64
                                                          billion
                                                          question ¡ª
                                                          could a new
                                                          antiwar
                                                          movement hook
                                                          up with the
                                                          Tea
                                                          Party movement
                                                          in a Stop the
                                                          War, Stop the
                                                          Spending
                                                          revolt?<br>
                                                          <br>
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