<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">No argument from <i>me</i> here, just quoting the pundits' latest.<div>And as for an actual Declaration of War, somebody pointed out that that hasn't happened since WW II... </div><div> --Jenifer<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 3/25/11, Robert Naiman <i><naiman@justforeignpolicy.org></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div id="yiv992786328"><div>A lot of folks seem to be under the mistaken impression - fostered in part by the Administration - that the War Powers Resolution - which despite the name "resolution," is a law - only contains reporting requirements.</div><div>
<br></div><div>This is, of course, false...</div><div><br></div><div><span class="yiv992786328Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">§ 1541. Purpose and policy<br>[...]<br>
(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation<br>The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to<br>introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into<br><div class="yiv992786328im" style="color:rgb(80, 0, 80);">
situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly<br></div>indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to<br><br>(1) a declaration of war,<br><br>(2) specific statutory authorization, or<br><br>
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its<br>territories or possessions, or its armed forces.<br>[...]<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001541----000-.html" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 204);">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001541----000-.html</a><br>
<br>There was no declaration of war. There was no specific statutory<br>authorization. There was no attack on the United States or its armed<br>forces. Therefore, the President violated the War Powers Resolution.</span><br>
<br><div class="yiv992786328gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv992786328gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">The current language used [to justify not consulting Congress] focuses on short duration and skips the eminent threat to the homeland stuff. Let's see if that's gonna play...<div>
--Jenifer <br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 3/22/11, Robert Naiman <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><div><div class="yiv992786328h5"><div>Kucinich has pledged to introduce an amendment to any funding vehicle<br>
that would defund military operations in Libya - i.e., pretty similar<br>to what Tim Johnson is proposing.
He is circulating a letter to that<br>effect; the last time I looked, Paul, Jones, and Stark had signed it.<br><br>On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Karen Medina <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mc/compose?to=kmedina67@gmail.com">kmedina67@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Good going, Tim Johnson.<br>> I am curious to see what Kucinich does.<br>> -karen medina<br>><br>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Rohn Koester <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mc/compose?to=rohnkoester@hotmail.com">rohnkoester@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Johnson opposes military action in Libya<br>>><br>>> Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:30am | Tom Kacich<br>>><br>>> U.S. Rep. Tim Johnson, R-Urbana, who already opposes U.S. involvement in<br>>> wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, today said he would introduce legislation to<br>
>> de-fund military action in Libya.<br>>><br>>> The six-term
Republican said he would work with Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich.,<br>>> a freshman congressman, to draft legislation declaring the action<br>>> unconstitutional.<br>>><br>>> “Constitutionally, it is indisputable that Congress must be consulted prior<br>
>> to an act of war unless there is an imminent threat against this country.<br>>> The president has not done so,” Johnson said. “In fact, this is the same man<br>>> who questioned President Bush’s constitutional authority to commit troops to<br>
>> war.”<br>>><br>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.news-gazette.com/news/politics-and-government/2011-03-22/johnson-opposes-military-action-libya.html">http://www.news-gazette.com/news/politics-and-government/2011-03-22/johnson-opposes-military-action-libya.html</a><br>
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