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True enough. In fact Harry Truman in Korea is the best model for
what BHO has done - before of course the War Powers Act, but equally
illegal. <br>
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On 3/25/11 3:32 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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<td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">No argument from <i>me</i> here,
just quoting the pundits' latest.
<div>And as for an actual Declaration of War, somebody
pointed out that that hasn't happened since WW II... </div>
<div> --Jenifer<br>
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<div>A lot of folks seem to be under the mistaken
impression - fostered in part by the
Administration - that the War Powers Resolution -
which despite the name "resolution," is a law -
only contains reporting requirements.</div>
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<div>This is, of course, false...</div>
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<div><span class="yiv992786328Apple-style-span"
style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family:
arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">§ 1541.
Purpose and policy<br>
[...]<br>
(c) Presidential executive power as
Commander-in-Chief; limitation<br>
The constitutional powers of the President as
Commander-in-Chief to<br>
introduce United States Armed Forces into
hostilities, or into<br>
<div class="yiv992786328im" style="color:
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situations where imminent involvement in
hostilities is clearly<br>
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indicated by the circumstances, are exercised
only pursuant to<br>
<br>
(1) a declaration of war,<br>
<br>
(2) specific statutory authorization, or<br>
<br>
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon
the United States, its<br>
territories or possessions, or its armed forces.<br>
[...]<br>
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There was no declaration of war. There was no
specific statutory<br>
authorization. There was no attack on the United
States or its armed<br>
forces. Therefore, the President violated the
War Powers Resolution.</span><br>
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<div class="yiv992786328gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar
25, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <span
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<td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">The
current language used [to justify not
consulting Congress] focuses on short
duration and skips the eminent threat
to the homeland stuff. Let's see if
that's gonna play...
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--Jenifer <br>
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<div>Kucinich has pledged to
introduce an amendment to
any funding vehicle<br>
that would defund military
operations in Libya - i.e.,
pretty similar<br>
to what Tim Johnson is
proposing. He is circulating
a letter to that<br>
effect; the last time I
looked, Paul, Jones, and
Stark had signed it.<br>
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> Good going, Tim
Johnson.<br>
> I am curious to see
what Kucinich does.<br>
> -karen medina<br>
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at
3:52 PM, Rohn Koester <<a
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>> Johnson opposes
military action in Libya<br>
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>> Tue, 03/22/2011 -
11:30am | Tom Kacich<br>
>><br>
>> U.S. Rep. Tim
Johnson, R-Urbana, who
already opposes U.S.
involvement in<br>
>> wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan, today said he
would introduce legislation
to<br>
>> de-fund military
action in Libya.<br>
>><br>
>> The six-term
Republican said he would
work with Rep. Justin Amash,
R-Mich.,<br>
>> a freshman
congressman, to draft
legislation declaring the
action<br>
>> unconstitutional.<br>
>><br>
>> “Constitutionally,
it is indisputable that
Congress must be consulted
prior<br>
>> to an act of war
unless there is an imminent
threat against this country.<br>
>> The president has
not done so,” Johnson said.
“In fact, this is the same
man<br>
>> who questioned
President Bush’s
constitutional authority to
commit troops to<br>
>> war.”<br>
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