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    True enough.  In fact Harry Truman in Korea is the best model for
    what BHO has done - before of course the War Powers Act, but equally
    illegal. <br>
    <br>
    On 3/25/11 3:32 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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            <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">No argument from <i>me</i> here,
              just quoting the pundits' latest.
              <div>And as for an actual Declaration of War, somebody
                pointed out that that hasn't happened since WW II... </div>
              <div> --Jenifer<br>
                <br>
                --- On <b>Fri, 3/25/11, Robert Naiman <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">&lt;naiman@justforeignpolicy.org&gt;</a></i></b>
                wrote:<br>
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                    <div>A lot of folks seem to be under the mistaken
                      impression - fostered in part by the
                      Administration - that the War Powers Resolution -
                      which despite the name "resolution," is a law -
                      only contains reporting requirements.</div>
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                    <div>This is, of course, false...</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div><span class="yiv992786328Apple-style-span"
                        style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family:
                        arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">§ 1541.
                        Purpose and policy<br>
                        [...]<br>
                        (c) Presidential executive power as
                        Commander-in-Chief; limitation<br>
                        The constitutional powers of the President as
                        Commander-in-Chief to<br>
                        introduce United States Armed Forces into
                        hostilities, or into<br>
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                          situations where imminent involvement in
                          hostilities is clearly<br>
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                        indicated by the circumstances, are exercised
                        only pursuant to<br>
                        <br>
                        (1) a declaration of war,<br>
                        <br>
                        (2) specific statutory authorization, or<br>
                        <br>
                        (3) a national emergency created by attack upon
                        the United States, its<br>
                        territories or possessions, or its armed forces.<br>
                        [...]<br>
                        <br>
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                        There was no declaration of war. There was no
                        specific statutory<br>
                        authorization. There was no attack on the United
                        States or its armed<br>
                        forces. Therefore, the President violated the
                        War Powers Resolution.</span><br>
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                      <div class="yiv992786328gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar
                        25, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <span
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                        wrote:<br>
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                                <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">The
                                  current language used [to justify not
                                  consulting Congress] focuses on short
                                  duration and skips the eminent threat
                                  to the homeland stuff. Let's see if
                                  that's gonna play...
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                                     --Jenifer <br>
                                    <br>
                                    --- On <b>Tue, 3/22/11, Robert
                                      Naiman <i>&lt;<a
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                                    wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>Kucinich has pledged to
                                            introduce an amendment to
                                            any funding vehicle<br>
                                            that would defund military
                                            operations in Libya - i.e.,
                                            pretty similar<br>
                                            to what Tim Johnson is
                                            proposing. He is circulating
                                            a letter to that<br>
                                            effect; the last time I
                                            looked, Paul, Jones, and
                                            Stark had signed it.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:53
                                            PM, Karen Medina &lt;<a
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                                            wrote:<br>
                                            &gt; Good going, Tim
                                            Johnson.<br>
                                            &gt; I am curious to see
                                            what Kucinich does.<br>
                                            &gt; -karen medina<br>
                                            &gt;<br>
                                            &gt; On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at
                                            3:52 PM, Rohn Koester &lt;<a
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                                            wrote:<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; Johnson opposes
                                            military action in Libya<br>
                                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; Tue, 03/22/2011 -
                                            11:30am | Tom Kacich<br>
                                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; U.S. Rep. Tim
                                            Johnson, R-Urbana, who
                                            already opposes U.S.
                                            involvement in<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; wars in Iraq and
                                            Afghanistan, today said he
                                            would introduce legislation
                                            to<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; de-fund military
                                            action in Libya.<br>
                                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; The six-term
                                            Republican said he would
                                            work with Rep. Justin Amash,
                                            R-Mich.,<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; a freshman
                                            congressman, to draft
                                            legislation declaring the
                                            action<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; unconstitutional.<br>
                                            &gt;&gt;<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; “Constitutionally,
                                            it is indisputable that
                                            Congress must be consulted
                                            prior<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; to an act of war
                                            unless there is an imminent
                                            threat against this country.<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; The president has
                                            not done so,” Johnson said.
                                            “In fact, this is the same
                                            man<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; who questioned
                                            President Bush’s
                                            constitutional authority to
                                            commit troops to<br>
                                            &gt;&gt; war.”<br>
                                            &gt;&gt;<br>
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