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    One does wonder what would happen if President Chavez sent
    Venezuelan Special Forces to attack a heavily-defended residence in
    Manhattan and executed Henry Kissinger (and several other people),
    because he was responsible for the "first 9/11" - in Chile,
    September 11, 1973, when Gen. Pinochet&#8217;s forces demolished Latin
    America&#8217;s oldest and most vibrant democracy and established a regime
    of torture and repression. The official death toll then was about
    the same as bin Laden's 9/11 - but the actual toll was doubtless
    much higher, and of course the Pinochet regime went on to practice
    and encourage murder and torture throughout LA.<br>
    <br>
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    On 5/4/11 3:42 PM, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
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            <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">...and his, too, of
              course.<br>
              <br>
              Ricky <br>
              --- On <b>Wed, 5/4/11, Ricky Baldwin <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:baldwinricky@yahoo.com">&lt;baldwinricky@yahoo.com&gt;</a></i></b>
              wrote:<br>
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                From: Ricky Baldwin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:baldwinricky@yahoo.com">&lt;baldwinricky@yahoo.com&gt;</a><br>
                Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Aspects of the "necessary
                murder"<br>
                To: "Peace-discuss" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">&lt;peace-discuss@anti-war.net&gt;</a>,
                "C. G. Estabrook" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">&lt;galliher@illinois.edu&gt;</a><br>
                Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 3:40 PM<br>
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                        <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Osama
                          bin Laden dies for our sins.<br>
                          <br>
                          Ricky Baldwin<br>
                          <br>
                          "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." -
                          Maggie Kuhn<br>
                          <br>
                          --- On <b>Tue, 5/3/11, C. G. Estabrook <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">&lt;galliher@illinois.edu&gt;</a></i></b>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            From: C. G. Estabrook
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">&lt;galliher@illinois.edu&gt;</a><br>
                            Subject: [Peace-discuss] Aspects of the
                            "necessary murder"<br>
                            To: "Peace-discuss"
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">&lt;peace-discuss@anti-war.net&gt;</a><br>
                            Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 10:56 PM<br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="yiv2105092958plainMail">Judge
                              Napolitano Asks 'Who Will Obama Illegally
                              Kill Next?'<br>
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                                href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBXHY5jHK-I">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBXHY5jHK-I</a><br>
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                              ===<br>
                              Shot In Cold Blood<br>
                              Bin Laden 'Was Not Armed and Did Not Use
                              Wife as Human Shield'<br>
                              By Peter Foster<br>
                              <br>
                              Osama bin Laden did not use one of his
                              four wives as a human shield in his dying
                              moments, contrary to earlier reports, as
                              White House officials began to "clarify"
                              early accounts of Monday's commando raids
                              by US special forces.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28012.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28012.htm</a><br>
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                              ===<br>
                              America Has Turned into a Moral Swamp<br>
                              By Mike Whitney<br>
                              <br>
                              The United States has sunk deeper into
                              savagery and abandoned any commitment to
                              conventional norms of behavior.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28014.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28014.htm</a><br>
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                              ===<br>
                              US Responds to Questions about Killing's
                              Legality<br>
                              By Owen Bowcott<br>
                              <br>
                              The attack had the appearance of an
                              "extrajudicial killing without due process
                              of the law"<br>
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28020.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28020.htm</a><br>
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                              ===<br>
                              Osama bin Laden's Useful Death<br>
                              Paul Craig Roberts<br>
                              <br>
                              In an immediate follow-up to the
                              announcement that the Navy SEALs and CIA
                              mercenaries acted in an exemplary fashion
                              following the rules of engagement while a
                              cowardly bin Laden hid behind a woman
                              shield when the gunfire erupted.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28016.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28016.htm</a><br>
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                              ===<br>
                              U.S. Refusal of 2001 Taliban Offer Gave
                              bin Laden a Free Pass<br>
                              By Gareth Porter<br>
                              <br>
                              When George W. Bush rejected a Taliban
                              offer to have Osama bin Laden tried by a
                              moderate group of Islamic states in mid-
                              October 2001, he gave up the only
                              opportunity the United States would have
                              to end bin Laden's terrorist career for
                              the next nine years.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28015.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28015.htm</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Why is Libya the Target for US/NATO
                              Missiles?<br>
                              By William Blum<br>
                              <br>
                              Are the Libyans the worst abusers of their
                              people in the region? In actuality, Libya
                              offers its citizens a higher standard of
                              living.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28017.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28017.htm</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Bolivarian Revolution in Washington<br>
                              By RT<br>
                              <br>
                              "Chavez is making himself the Osama Bin
                              Laden and the Ahmedinejad of the Western
                              Hemisphere," Rep. Connie Mack (R-FL) told
                              Republicans during the Conservative
                              Political Action Conference in Washington
                              in February 2011.<br>
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28013.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28013.htm</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Obama watched Bin Laden die on live video
                              as shoot-out beamed to White House:<br>
                              President Obama was watching on a TV
                              screen as a commando gunned down Osama bin
                              Laden. Via a video camera fixed to the
                              helmet of a U.S. Navy Seal, the leader of
                              the free world saw the terror chief shot
                              in the left eye.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                                target="_blank"
                                href="http://bit.ly/kpPQCE">http://bit.ly/kpPQCE</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              White House: bin Laden photo 'gruesome':<br>
                              The White House says the photograph of a
                              dead Osama bin Laden is "gruesome" and
                              that "it could be inflammatory" if
                              released.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/03/2198937/white-house-bin-laden-photo-gruesome.html">http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/03/2198937/white-house-bin-laden-photo-gruesome.html</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Islamic scholars criticize bin Laden's sea
                              burial: -<br>
                              <br>
                              Muslim clerics said Monday that Osama bin
                              Laden's burial at sea was a violation of
                              Islamic tradition that may further provoke
                              militant calls for revenge attacks against
                              American targets.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_bin_laden_sea_burial">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_bin_laden_sea_burial</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Pakistan slams 'unauthorized' U.S. raid on
                              bin Laden:<br>
                              <br>
                              Pakistan criticized the American raid that
                              killed Osama bin Laden as an "unauthorized
                              unilateral action," laying bare the
                              strains the raid has put on an already
                              rocky alliance.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-05-03-pakistan-osama-bin-laden_n.htm">http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-05-03-pakistan-osama-bin-laden_n.htm</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Raw Video: Karachi Protest Over bin Laden
                              Raid:<br>
                              <br>
                              Several dozen demonstrators gathered in
                              Pakistan's largest city, Karachi, on
                              Tuesday, to protest against the killing of
                              al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in a U.S.
                              special forces' mission a day earlier<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://bit.ly/jvJBJV">http://bit.ly/jvJBJV</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Bahrain doctors and nurses face trials:<br>
                              <br>
                              Several doctors and nurses who treated
                              injured anti-government protesters during
                              the months of unrest in Bahrain will be
                              tried in a military court on charges of
                              acting against the state, the justice
                              minister said Tuesday.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-05-03-bahrain-medical-trials_n.htm">http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-05-03-bahrain-medical-trials_n.htm</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Bahrain king is press 'predator': RSF:<br>
                              <br>
                              Media rights watchdog Reporters Without
                              Borders (RSF) added Bahrain's King Hamad
                              bin Issa al-Khalifa to its latest
                              blacklist of "predators" against press
                              freedom on Tuesday.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                                target="_blank"
                                href="http://yhoo.it/iHrfpY">http://yhoo.it/iHrfpY</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Abbas arrives in Cairo ahead of signing
                              Fatah-Hamas unity deal:<br>
                              <br>
                              Hamas officials said that the Islamist
                              militant group would honor an unofficial
                              truce with Israel after forming a new
                              unity government with Palestinian rivals
                              from the West Bank.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://bit.ly/ldEhKf">http://bit.ly/ldEhKf</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Text (In English) of the Agreement between
                              Fatah and Hamas :<br>
                              <br>
                              This document is currently in the process
                              of being signed by all of Palestine's
                              factions and parties.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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                                href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28019.htm">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28019.htm</a><br>
                              <br>
                              ===<br>
                              Bill would require suspects to be placed
                              in military custody :<br>
                              <br>
                              A bill in the House of Representatives,
                              sponsored by Rep. Bobby Shilling, R-Ill.,
                              would require terrorism suspects,
                              including those arrested in the United
                              States, to be placed in military custody
                              unless the Defense secretary rules
                              otherwise.<br>
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                                target="_blank"
                                href="http://usat.ly/kq21y0">http://usat.ly/kq21y0</a><br>
                              <br>
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                              Landlords Warned to Watch Out for
                              "Radicalized Individuals":<br>
                              <br>
                              The federal government is advising private
                              property owners to raise their own alert
                              level following the death of Osama bin
                              Laden.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/business/DC-Landlords-Warned-to-Watch-Out-for-Radicaled-Individuals-121168394.html">http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/business/DC-Landlords-Warned-to-Watch-Out-for-Radicaled-Individuals-121168394.html</a><br>
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