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"New Front Tears" is good...<br>
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Odiousity of Hope? <br>
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On 6/21/11 8:36 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" wrote:
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discovering <br>
new frontiers<br>
new dragons to slay<br>
new countries to bomb <br>
new deserts for democracy<br>
new martyrs to assassinate<br>
new governments to Overthrow <br>
new dissidents to jail and torture <br>
new babies to mangle and incinerate<br>
new boys to bring back dead, maimed, worse <br>
crisp new simoleons lettuce fund the war machine<br>
<br>
hey hey Obamay how many frontiers did you rape today<br>
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why then the world's mine Oyster<br>
which I with sword will Open<br>
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not another f'n penny <br>
for new front tears <br>
mr Odiacity<br>
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On 06/21/11 22:06, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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<td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">No insult
intended, Paul, honest. You expressed yr
tho'ts, I expressed mine. And it seems we both stand by
our original
statements. <br>
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--- On <b>Mon, 6/20/11, pnolan64 <i><a
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From: pnolan64 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Are you
interested in working on
AWARE's 4th of July float? We need all the helpers we
can get.<br>
To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com"><jencart13@yahoo.com></a>,
"Stuart Levy"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.illinois.edu"><slevy@ncsa.illinois.edu></a><br>
Cc: "Stuart Levy" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu"><slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu></a>,
"Ron Szoke"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:r-szoke@illinois.edu"><r-szoke@illinois.edu></a>,
"Ed Mandel"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:crazyhawk22@hotmail.com"><crazyhawk22@hotmail.com></a>,
"Karen Medina"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:kmedina@illinois.edu"><kmedina@illinois.edu></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>,
"Don
McClure" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dmccjr@att.net"><dmccjr@att.net></a><br>
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 6:45 PM<br>
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<div style="font-family: times new roman,new
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Jenifer,<br>
<br>
I didn't say "peace signs". What I said was signs
with "messages",
while leaving the nature of the message up to the
individual.<br>
<br>
Before you insult and mock someone's idea, perhaps
you should read it
first.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<div>"To thine own self be true."</div>
<div>William Shakespeare</div>
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<hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">From:</span></b>
Jenifer Cartwright <a
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class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com"><jencart13@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
pnolan64
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:pnolan64@yahoo.com"><pnolan64@yahoo.com></a>;
Stuart Levy <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.illinois.edu"><slevy@ncsa.illinois.edu></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
Paul Nolan
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:pnolan64@yahoo.com"><pnolan64@yahoo.com></a>;
Stuart Levy <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu"><slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu></a>;
Ron Szoke <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:r-szoke@illinois.edu"><r-szoke@illinois.edu></a>;
Ed Mandel
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:crazyhawk22@hotmail.com"><crazyhawk22@hotmail.com></a>;
Karen Medina
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:kmedina@illinois.edu"><kmedina@illinois.edu></a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>;
Don
McClure <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dmccjr@att.net"><dmccjr@att.net></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Mon,
June 20, 2011 6:01:52 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re:
[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Are you interested
in working on AWARE's 4th of
July float? We need all the helpers we can
get.<br>
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class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
face="arial">Not
much punch,and no relationship to
the theme just carrying Peace
signs. </font>
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class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
face="arial"><br>
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<div><font
class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
face="arial">E-z enuff to provide
both punch and theme w/ a little
imagination and not much more
work.</font></div>
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class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
face="arial"><br>
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<div><font
class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
face="arial">Repeating my original
suggestion: "Discovering New
Frontiers" could mean
e-communication's impact on Peace
and Justice --
facebook's toppling Mubarak;
whistleblowers (Manning; Drake)
and
journalists (WikiLeaks). </font></div>
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class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
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<div><font
class="yiv439494220Apple-style-span"
face="arial">If anybody wants
to head this/anything up, go
for it!<br>
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--- On <b>Mon, 6/20/11, Stuart
Levy <i><a
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wrote:<br>
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From: Stuart Levy <a
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href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.illinois.edu"><slevy@ncsa.illinois.edu></a><br>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss]
[Peace] Are you interested in
working on
AWARE's 4th of July float? We
need all the helpers we can
get.<br>
To: "pnolan64" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:pnolan64@yahoo.com"><pnolan64@yahoo.com></a><br>
Cc: "Paul Nolan" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:pnolan64@yahoo.com"><pnolan64@yahoo.com></a>, "Stuart
Levy"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu"><slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu></a>, "Ron
Szoke" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:r-szoke@illinois.edu"><r-szoke@illinois.edu></a>,
"Ed Mandel" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:crazyhawk22@hotmail.com"><crazyhawk22@hotmail.com></a>,
"Karen Medina"
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:kmedina@illinois.edu"><kmedina@illinois.edu></a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>,
"Don
McClure" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dmccjr@att.net"><dmccjr@att.net></a><br>
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011,
11:28 AM<br>
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<div
class="yiv439494220plainMail">On
Mon, Jun 20,
2011 at 07:26:47AM -0700,
pnolan64 wrote:<br>
> You know, you don't
really need a float per se.
How about just
having a bunch <br>
> of people carrying
signs protesting the war? I
personally think
that would be <br>
> far more impressive
(and have more impact). It
gives the
impression that the <br>
> messages are coming
from the people not from an
organization.<br>
> <br>
> Oh, and the signs
should be hand lettered but
be clearly readable
at a <br>
> distance. This would
again show the messages are
from the people.<br>
> <br>
> Paul<br>
<br>
My two cents: I agree with
both Paul's points. Signs,
or
signs-and-a-banner,<br>
could be a fine entry.<br>
<br>
But please discount the
above - I'll miss this
year's parade, will be
away on the 4th.<br>
And I won't have time to
help with planning until
next week, at least.<br>
<br>
> <br>
> "To thine own self be
true."<br>
> William Shakespeare<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
>
________________________________<br>
> From: Karen Medina <<a
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> To: Peace List <<a
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> Sent: Mon, June 20,
2011 8:37:21 AM<br>
> Subject: [Peace] Are
you interested in working on
AWARE's 4th of
July float? We <br>
> need all the helpers we
can get.<br>
> <br>
> Peace,<br>
> <br>
> Are you interested in
working on AWARE's 4th of
July float? We need<br>
> all the helpers we can
get.<br>
> <br>
> -- karen medina<br>
>
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