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Chomsky makes some excellent points about how the false prophets (liars)<br>
are treated well while the dissidents telling the truth are killed
imprisoned <br>
and worse. Modernization and enlightenment haven't changed the navi
blues one bit. <br>
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An alternative derivation of navi is that it comes from a root naba
<05042> that means to "bubble up (like a fountain, a spring of
water)". The prophet speaks what is revealed to him as he is moved by
the spirit of God.<br>
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The intellectual dissident can discover the truth by 'brute force'
deriving it from first principles but the poor uneducated son of the
fig plucker can drink from the same spiritual river of living water as
Enoch and the sons of the prophets.<br>
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On 07/06/11 11:32, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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See Chomsky on the role of the prophet - like Isaiah - then and now:<br>
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<style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.08in; }</style>"The word
'prophet' is a very bad translation of an obscure Hebrew word, navi.
Nobody knows what it means. But today they'd be called dissident
intellectuals. They were giving geopolitical analysis, arguing that the
acts of the rulers were going to destroy society. And they condemned
the acts of evil kings. They called for justice and mercy to orphans
and widows and so on.<br>
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"I don't want to say it was all beautiful. Dissident intellectuals
aren't all beautiful. You read Sakharov, who is sometimes appalling. Or
Solzhenitsyn. And the nivi'im were treated the way dissident
intellectuals always are. They weren't praised. They weren't honored.
They were imprisoned like Jeremiah. They were driven into the desert.
They were hated. Now at the time, there were intellectuals, 'prophets,'
who were very well treated. They were the flatterers of the court.
Centuries later, they were called 'false prophets.'
<p>"People who criticize power in the Jewish community are regarded
the way Ahab treated Elijah: You're a traitor. You've got to serve
power. You can't argue that the policies that Israel is following are
going to lead to its destruction, which I thought then and still do... </p>
<p>"I particularly admired [Amos'] comments that he's not an
intellectual ...' I'm not a prophet, I'm not the son of a prophet, I'm
a simple shepherd.' So he translated 'prophet' correctly. He's saying,
'I'm not an intellectual.' He was a simple farmer and he wanted just to
tell the truth. I admire that."</p>
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On 7/5/11 8:50 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:4E13BF78.5000801@pigs.ag" type="cite">"We will
not be silent." <br>
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It is a very interesting and ironic <br>
if not fortunate choice of words. <br>
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"For Zion's sake I will not keep silent, <br>
for Jerusalem's sake I will not be still, <br>
till her vindication shines forth like the dawning, <br>
and her victory like the flame of the Lord." <br>
- Isaiah 62.1 (Talbot's rendering) <br>
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On 07/06/11 7:44, Robert Naiman wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">I now have a bag of shirts. Some US boat to
Gaza, some "We will not be <br>
silent," in English, Arabic, and Hebrew. <br>
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Karen Medina<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Yes, bring tee-shirts. <br>
AWARE can sell some, though tee-shirts don't sell very well from our
table. <br>
It is more likely that members of AWARE would want to buy one. <br>
<br>
I will take one. <br>
<br>
ISO and SJP members might also. <br>
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-karen medina <br>
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Robert Naiman <br>
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wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">I have the opportunity to bring a bunch
of US Boat to Gaza t-shirts to <br>
Urbana. How many should I try to bring? The idea would be to sell them <br>
on a sliding scale, $10-$20, as a fundraiser for the US boat campaign. <br>
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Policy Director <br>
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