<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>It was a creepy name from the beginning, and an even creepier idea. The whole USA Patriot Act and related system needs dismantling. Shame on Bush, shame on Congress, and shame on Obama, for setting it up in the first place and then for not shredding it by now. It's also not the only form of police state we experience -- as we notice in the local papers of late.<br></span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>But (p.s.) there's an easy confusion here between "heim-," which means "home" as in "Heimat" ("homeland"), and "geheime," which means "secret," in the full name of the infamous Nazi Gestapo. It could be that whoever coined the name "Homeland Security" for our own US police state agency thought it was a clever pun, or that their German just wasn't very good, but we can't actually
translate "Homeland Security" as "Geheime Staatspolizei." The US system of totalitarianism -- or "inverted totalitarianism" as someone called it -- is also more sophisticated in my opinion and I believe enjoys more support in the population than the Nazi/fascist systems (although we do tend to underestimate how sophisticated they were, and how much support they did enjoy at the time).<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Ricky Baldwin<br><br></div><div>"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Carl G. Estabrook <galliher@illinois.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net> <br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 26, 2011 9:21 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Peace-discuss] DHS Gestapo<br> </font> <br>
<meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv1210075543"><div>"Homeland Security" in German could be Geheime Staatspolizei: under Obama, they're working to live up to that name.<div><br></div><div>http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy</div></div></div><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="on"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>