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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>What ???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>How is this a " diversion " ?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>" We all of course oppose racism, for political and personal reasons. But
it's a great error to use that opposition to undercut the Occupy Movement.
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>I am hoping to strengthen the Occupy movement.
Larger participation of working class people of color and
white workers as well.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>I agree totaly Carl that the race / gender
issues have been used by the ruling class to divert attention from issues
of class.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>So how am I avoiding the issue of class
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>You should know me better than that
Carl.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>When have I ever NOT talked about class issues
?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>David J.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cge@shout.net href="mailto:cge@shout.net">C. G. ESTABROOK</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dlj725@hughes.net
href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</A> ; <A
title=sf-core@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com">sf-core</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:53
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Universalism and Particularity:
The Occupy Movement and Race</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>David--
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Why are you participating in this "identity-politics" diversion?</DIV>
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<DIV>Forty years ago, when it looked like issues of economics and inequality
might actually penetrate the limits of allowable debate in American politics,
liberals (and the Democrats - always a business party) hastily substituted
diversity for equality as their announced goal. </DIV>
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<DIV>Not that diversity isn't a good thing. But the US political establishment
was using it to take the place of demands for economic equality. (And in the
meantime they launched neoliberalism, which enforced economic inequality at a
rapid and accelerating rate - that's what the Occupy movement opposes.)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In subsequent years, we heard much about the "trinity of oppression" -
class, race, and gender. But class is not like the other two. Conflicts
of race and gender can in principle be solved by reconciliation, if not
easily. But conflict between exploiter and exploited cannot - one or the other
must be liquidated (the social role, if not the physical persons).
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>We all of course oppose racism, for political and personal reasons. But
it's a great error to use that opposition to undercut the Occupy
Movement.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Regards, Carl<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span color=#000000><BR></FONT>Message:
1<BR>Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:03:20 -0600<BR>From: Karen Medina <<A
href="mailto:kmedina67@gmail.com">kmedina67@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: Peace
List <<A
href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Subject:
[Peace] Universalism and Particularity: The Occupy Movement<BR><SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>and Race / Tuesday,
December 6, 2011 7-9:30 P.M. Department of African<BR><SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>American Studies 1201
West Nevada Street, Urbana, Illinois<BR>Message-ID:<BR><SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><<A
href="mailto:CA+0uwiaf2p5ap5Z+RHEm0=Tc2zFEzJLCbpL9Nu=EH9FXVsrsTQ@mail.gmail.com">CA+0uwiaf2p5ap5Z+RHEm0=Tc2zFEzJLCbpL9Nu=EH9FXVsrsTQ@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>Universalism and Particularity: The Occupy
Movement and Race<BR>Over the last 90 days the Occupy Movement has focused
attention on the<BR>capitalist class? 40 year<BR>devastation of the working
and middle classes. In the 1960s, corporate<BR>executives made 26 times
workers,<BR>by 1980 it rose to 32 times; and in 2009 it was 263 times. Led
by<BR>young largely white college graduates<BR>Occupy is part of a worldwide
movement that is challenging global<BR>class disparities. Yet, as inspiring
as the<BR>Occupy movement has been, like previous U.S. radical movements
it<BR>seems mired on the rocky shores of<BR>race. Is the Occupy movement
doomed to repeat the errors of the past?<BR>Can it move beyond
seemingly<BR>universal ?colorblind? reformist proposals and engage
the<BR>particularities of racialized oppression and chart<BR>a genuine
struggle for a multiracial democracy?<BR>Tuesday, December 6, 2011<BR>7-9:30
P.M.<BR>Department of African American Studies<BR>1201 West Nevada Street,
Urbana, Illinois<BR><BR>Chair: Helen Neville, Departments of African
American Studies &<BR>Educational Policy Studies<BR>Panelists: * Abdul
Alkalimat, African American Studies and Graduate<BR>Program in Library and
Information Sciences<BR>* Gene Vanderport, CU Socialist Forum and Illinois
Educational Association<BR>* Jermaine Light, Socialist Forum<BR>* David
Johnson, Labor Notes and Vice President of the United Electrical
Workers<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>