<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:47 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I am not in favour of such senseless acts of violence.<br> (I am not sure that I am totally against "sensible" acts of violence...,<br> such as riding down birches, or tearing down walls.)<br> <br></div></blockquote>The Frost is on the punking...</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Xenophobia is not necessarily a mental illness but it is irrational.<br> All phobias are irrational. <br> (There might, paradoxically, be a place for Zeno-phobia if one is so moved.)<br> <br></div></blockquote>Zeno-phobia = fear that motion is (not) an illusion? fear of Italo Svevo's novel?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> For every one that "goes postal" and acts on impulses there are likely hundreds who do<br> not spring into action.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>They're in poste restante...<br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <br> The tendency for people to form tribes, ethnic groups, cliques, and sects (sectarian and non-sectarian)<br> seems to be common/natural/comfortable. I don't believe that such behaviour is <br> going to be stopped by passing a law against it or calling it a "hate crime".<br><br></div></blockquote><div>Altho' it seems to be a way to dis-sect a thought-crime...</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> There are lots of people in the usa who dont like "furners".<br> Rural America is practically characterized by such thinking but not such action.<br> Are they criminals? Are they not accomplices to "hate crimes"?<br> <br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Is it a hate crime to hate those who commit hate crimes?<br> Is it a hate crime to incarcerate "hate criminals"? <br> Just because they're "different"? <br> <br> Should diversity extend to xenophobes the same as it does to the kedesophobes?<br> <br></div></blockquote><div>Do kedesophobes really fear hate or simply hear fate? Are they philophiliacs? (Or is that a suburb in PA?)</div><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> *<br> ... love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,<br> gentleness, and self–control. There is no law against these things!<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>As il maestro di color che sanno says, there's a natural law for them. </div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On 12/13/2011 10:59 PM, Karen Medina wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:CA+0uwiZc7CeJMbHOMB5tk6AfqA4v=Yrr8sqRaibjw-f7MTboeg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi Jesse,
A vigil against hate crimes would be a good thing.
This particular incident is more likely a case of severe mental
illness. I'd be happy to support campaigns to deal with mental
illnesses and for Illinois to raise taxes for this issue.
We do need to awaken campaigns of cross-cultural education, against
xenophobia, and joint programs with other groups. But not in
particular to take on this case.
-karen medina
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jesse Phillippe <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:japhillippe@gmail.com"><japhillippe@gmail.com></a> wrote:
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">What about doing an action targeting this hate crime? Is anyone interested
in doing that or have any ideas about what to do? We could contact student
groups, CAIR, the Indian Student Association (I'm presuming he was Indian.),
the Occupy group, etc...
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1. I looked up the stabbing victim's faculty bio (Karen Medina)
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[ I looked up the recent alleged hate-crime/stabbing victim's faculty
bio and thought I would share, simply because the news stories are all
saying the victim was non-white. I've included a history of his
education (Ph.D. University of California-Berkeley and M.Ec.
University of Western Australia), recent work (2009 to present at the
U of I; University of Connecticut before that), and a photo. On a
separate line of thought, I am wondering if the alleged attacker has a
history of mental illness. -karen medina ]
=== a re-ordering of the news stories so that they make more sense to
me at least ===
A witness told police that the men (the attacker and the victim) were
both seated in the waiting area for the train in the Champaign
transportation terminal second floor when one man, a 23-year-old from
Fithian Illinois -- Joshua Scaggs, suddenly jumped up and shouted that
this was his country and he attacked the other man, Anurudha Udeni
Dhammika Dharmapala -- a 41-year-old law professor at the University
of Illinois who was waiting for the train to Chicago.
Scaggs appeared to be choking Dharmapala as he then forced the victim
to the floor. But as the witness pulled them apart, the witness
noticed that the attacker was holding a utility knife and the victim
was bleeding. Dharmapala sustained about a six-inch cut on his throat
which bled profusely. Police also found another folding knife in
Scaggs' pocket.
Although police arrested Scaggs for the offense of hate crime,
Assistant State's Attorney Steve Ziegler opted not to file it because
the other charges carry heavier penalties and he's confident he can
prove the aggravated battery based on the information he has. The
Champaign County state's attorney's office has filed three felony
charges against Scaggs. Evidently the charges are two charges of
aggravated battery and an attempted murder charge. The attempted
murder charge is a Class X felony carrying a mandatory prison sentence
of between 6 and 30 years.
====== bio =====
Dhammika Dharmapala
Professor
Ph.D. University of California-Berkeley
M.Ec. University of Western Australia
Dhammika Dharmapala joined the Illinois faculty in the fall of 2009
from the University of Connecticut Department of Economics. Professor
Dharmapala is an authority in tax policy, public economics, law and
economics, and political economics. He recently co-authored the
article, "Taxing the Bandit Kings" in the Yale Law Journal Pocket
Part. He was recently named to the National Tax Association board of
directors.
Professor Dharmapala earned his master's degree in economics from the
University of Western Australia and his Ph.D. in economics from the
University of California-Berkeley. He served as an international
research fellow at the Oxford University Centre for Business Taxation
and a visiting professor of business economics and public policy at
the University of Michigan.
Prior to arriving at Connecticut in 2002, Professor Dharmapala was a
postdoctoral fellow at Harvard University and a John M. Olin Visiting
Fellow in Law and Economics at Georgetown University Law School. He
serves on the editorial board of the Review of Law and Economics.
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