Stuart, thanks for this. Glenn Greenwald has a very good piece about this, as well: <a href="http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/">http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/</a>.<div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Stuart Levy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    Thought this was a good piece from the United for Peace and Justice
    list - as well as the David Swanson column that it responds to.<br>
    <br>
    We could well adopt the South African term, "securocrats", for
    operatives in our own merging military/nationalsecurity/local police
    agglomeration.<br>
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          <th align="RIGHT" nowrap valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th>
          <td>[ufpj-activist] Fwd: [Ufpj-leg-action] David Swanson Set
            Your Doomsday Clock to 11:51</td>
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          <th align="RIGHT" nowrap valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
          <td>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:23:02 -0800</td>
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          <th align="RIGHT" nowrap valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
          <td>Christopher Lowe <a href="mailto:clowe@igc.org" target="_blank"><clowe@igc.org></a></td>
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          <td>UFPJ-activist activist
            <a href="mailto:ufpj-activist@lists.mayfirst.org" target="_blank"><ufpj-activist@lists.mayfirst.org></a></td>
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    Thanks to David Swanson for the brilliant clarity of this piece.  
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>Regarding this:  "The National Defense Authorization Act is not
      a leap from democracy to tyranny, but it is another major step on
      a steady and accelerating decade-long march toward a police
      state," allow me to offer a mite of perspective from an atypical
      angle:  the history of South Africa.  It has been resonating in my
      mind in recent years and weeks.</div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>The steps were different.  In some ways they were smaller,
      through many increments of expanded time of detention without
      trial and restriction of detainee ability to seek legal redress
      and judicial ability to intervene.  The leap to indefinite
      detention without legal recourse has occurred with breathless
      haste in our case, by old South African standards.  </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>Conversely, in some ways in South Africa the application was
      much broader, as the detention provisions applied across civil
      society to all South African citizens and residents (including
      those whose citizenship "grand apartheid" sought to end) and were
      carried out by the police, including the secret political police.
       </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>By old South African standards, the restriction of detention
      without trial to military agencies under the law of war and the
      quibbling over issues like<i> posse comitatus</i> and distinctions
      between executive military jurisdiction vs. prosecutorial powers
      in civilian jurisdictions, while fastidious in a way that betrays
      their pantomime character and bad conscience, nonetheless defines
      a narrowness of scope, along with the frontiers of potential
      expansion as principle erodes.  </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>However, in the period between the first detention without
      trial laws around 1960 and the full blown police state "states of
      emergency" in the 1980s, South Africa also saw an erosion and
      ultimately collapse of the military vs. secret police vs. civilian
      police distinction.  </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>South African opposition intellectuals developed a new word,
      "securocrats," to describe those acting within the increasingly
      merged structures.  In the U.S. we have been undergoing a similar
      process since September 2001, and  the undermining of <i>posse
        comitatus</i> under the "global battlefield" doctrine is a
      further step in that process.  </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>Even before those developments, the old South African state was
      only unevenly and ambiguously liberal, in rule-of-law terms, but
      there was a realm of civil liberties and a legal tradition behind
      it that was progressively strangled from about 1960 to 1989.
       After a certain point defense in the legal system became almost
      purely tactical, as there was nothing left of principle to defend,
      but the tactical fights still mattered.  </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>We start from a somewhat stronger place, especially insofar as
      old South Africa was a parliamentary republic lacking an
      independent judiciary and having no constitutionally established
      rights and liberties.  It seems to me that we need to continue
      asserting that these purported laws are in fact illegal, even
      while the political meaning of such assertion may be shifting
      toward highlighting the growing illegitimacy of the state, and
      even if the courts for a time abdicate their duties and rule
      erroneously or refuse to rule. </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>All this by way of offering one relatively historical precedent
      for David's "march toward a police state" analysis.  </div>
    <div><br>
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    <div>Chris L</div>
    <div>Portland, OR</div>
    <div><br>
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      <div><br>
        <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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              16, 2011 10:16:26 AM PST</font></div>
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                David Swanson Set Your Doomsday Clock to 11:51</b></font></div>
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              <h1>Set Your Doomsday Clock to 11:51 </h1>
              By David Swanson<br>
              <a title="http://warisacrime.org/content/set-your-doomsday-clock-1151" href="http://warisacrime.org/content/set-your-doomsday-clock-1151" target="_blank">http://warisacrime.org/content/set-your-doomsday-clock-1151</a><br>

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                <div>
                  <p>The National Defense Authorization Act is not a
                    leap from democracy to tyranny, but it is another
                    major step on a steady and accelerating decade-long
                    march toward a police state. The doomsday clock of
                    our republic just got noticeably closer to midnight,
                    and the fact that almost nobody knows it, simply
                    moves that fatal minute-hand a bit further still.</p>
                  <p>I'm not referring to the “doomsday” <a title="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/panetta-doomsday-scenario-may-exaggerate-cuts.html" href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/panetta-doomsday-scenario-may-exaggerate-cuts.html" target="_blank">predicted</a>
                    by Leon Panetta should military spending be scaled
                    back to the obscenely inflated levels of 2007. I'm
                    talking about the complete failure to <em>keep</em>
                    the republic that Benjamin Franklin warned we might
                    not. Practices that were avoided, outsourced, or
                    kept secret when Bill Clinton was president were
                    directly engaged in on such a scale under president
                    George W. Bush that they became common knowledge.
                    Under President Obama they are becoming formal law
                    and acceptable policy.</p>
                  <p>Obama has <a title="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/5/22/vince_warren" href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/5/22/vince_warren" target="_blank">claimed the
                      power</a> to imprison people without a trial since
                    his earliest months in office. He <a title="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/obama-national-archives-s_n_206189.html" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/obama-national-archives-s_n_206189.html" target="_blank">spoke</a>
                    in front of the Constitution in the National
                    Archives while gutting our founding document in
                    2009. So why not pick the 220th anniversary of the
                    Bill of Rights to further codify its elimination?
                    President Obama <a title="http://warisacrime.org/ongoingtorture" href="http://warisacrime.org/ongoingtorture" target="_blank">has
                      claimed</a> the power to torture "if needed,"
                    issued an <a title="http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-issues-executive-order-institutionalizing-indefinite-detention" href="http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-issues-executive-order-institutionalizing-indefinite-detention" target="_blank">executive
                      order</a> claiming the power of imprisonment
                    without trial, exercised that power on a massive
                    scale at Bagram, and claimed <a title="http://www.salon.com/2010/04/07/assassinations_2/" href="http://www.salon.com/2010/04/07/assassinations_2/" target="_blank">and exercised</a>
                    the power to assassinate U.S. citizens. Obama
                    routinely kills people with unmanned drones.</p>
                  <p>As Obama's Justice Department has broken new ground
                    in the construction of state secrecy and immunity,
                    the Bush era advancers of imperial presidential
                    power have gone on book tours bragging about their
                    misdeeds. One can expect the next step to involve
                    serious abuse of those who question and resist the
                    current bipartisan trajectory.</p>
                  <p>So what does the latest bill do, other than dumping
                    another $660 billion into wars and war preparation?
                    Well, <a title="http://warisacrime.org/content/changes-made-won-obamas-approval" href="http://warisacrime.org/content/changes-made-won-obamas-approval" target="_blank">it
                      says this</a>:</p>
                  <blockquote>
                    <p>"Nothing in this section is intended to limit or
                      expand the authority of the President or the scope
                      of the Authorization for Use of Military Force."</p>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p>In other words, Congress is giving its stamp of
                    approval to the unconstitutional outrages already
                    claimed by the president. But then, why create a new
                    law at all? Well, because some outrages are more
                    equal than others, and Congress has chosen to
                    specify some of those and in fact to expand some of
                    them. For example:</p>
                  <blockquote>
                    <p>"Congress affirms that the authority of the
                      President to use all necessary and appropriate
                      force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of
                      Military Force (Public Law 107-40) includes the
                      authority for the Armed Forces of the United
                      States to detain covered persons (as defined in
                      subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law
                      of war."</p>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p>And this:</p>
                  <blockquote>
                    <p>"The disposition of a person under the law of war
                      as described in subsection (a) may include the
                      following: (1) Detention under the law of war
                      without trial until the end of the hostilities
                      authorized by the Authorization for Use of
                      Military Force."</p>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p>Jon Stewart explained when those detained without
                    trial under the law might be released: “So when the
                    war on terror ends, and terror surrenders and is no
                    longer available as a human emotion, you are free to
                    go.”</p>
                  <p>An exception for U.S. citizens was kept out of the
                    bill <a title="http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/" href="http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/" target="_blank">at President Obama's
                      request</a>.</p>
                  <p>So why did Obama threaten to veto the bill
                    initially and again after it passed the Senate?
                    Well, one change made by the conference committee
                    was this:</p>
                  <blockquote>
                    <p>"The <strike>Secretary of Defense</strike>
                      President may<strike>, in consultation with the
                        Secretary of State and the Director of National
                        Intelligence,</strike> waive the requirement of
                      paragraph (1) if the <strike>Secretary</strike>
                      President submits to Congress a certification in
                      writing that such a waiver is in the national
                      security interests of the United States."</p>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p>The reference here is to military tribunals. The
                    President – that is, the current one and future ones
                    – need not hand someone over even to a military
                    tribunal if . . . well, if he (or she) chooses not
                    to.</p>
                  <p>President Obama wanted a bill that limited him in
                    no way, and he is likely to issue a law-altering
                    signing-statement that further removes any offensive
                    limits on absolute tyrannical power. This type of
                    signing statement is another example of something
                    done secretly by Bush, exposed, turned into a
                    temporary scandal, denounced by candidate Obama,
                    then utilized by President Obama, formally
                    established by executive order, and now more or less
                    accepted by everyone as the norm.</p>
                  <p>That is what will happen with trial-free
                    imprisonment and assassination as well. And the
                    presidents who engage in these practices will be
                    from both major political parties. So readers should
                    weigh the acceptable crimes and abuses of the good
                    tyrants on their team against the risk of presidents
                    from the other team doing the same. Of course, this
                    team loyalty is the main reason the streets of
                    Washington are not filled with protesters. The
                    corporate media believes that outrages agreed to by
                    both parties are not news. Many Democrats believe
                    any power a Democratic president wants he should
                    have, even though all of his successors will have it
                    too. And many Republicans back whatever comes out of
                    a Republican House of Representatives.</p>
                  <p>A large majority of Republicans in the House voted
                    to eviscerate our Bill of Rights, and the Democrats
                    split 93 to 93. In the Senate both parties
                    overwhelmingly voted "Aye."</p>
                  <p>If ever there was a time to build an independent,
                    principled movement based in activism rather than
                    elections and to put a few more minutes back on the
                    doomsday clock, this is it. While Obama's decision
                    not to veto this bill has discouraged many, at
                    RootsAction we've continued <a title="http://rootsaction.org/featured-actions/316-veto-imprisonment-without-charge-or-trial" href="http://rootsaction.org/featured-actions/316-veto-imprisonment-without-charge-or-trial" target="_blank">demanding
                      a veto</a> because we think the Constitution
                    should be upheld and improved, not dismantled. If
                    signed into law, we will demand that this
                    elimination of our rights be repealed by Congress or
                    overturned in court, and we will use that campaign
                    to educate the public about what just happened.</p>
                  <p>##</p>
                  <p>David Swanson is a campaigner for <a title="http://rootsaction.org/" href="http://rootsaction.org/" target="_blank">http://rootsaction.org</a>
                    and the author of "When the World Outlawed War,"
                    "War Is A Lie" and "Daybreak: Undoing the Imperial
                    Presidency and Forming a More Perfect Union."</p>
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