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<DIV>From where I sit, it seems to me that by becoming a political party and
running candidates for office in the US (independent of the positions taken or
people running for office) is buying into the legitimacy of the current
electoral system and its processes in which (a) winner takes all with no
possibility of third parties and minority parties gaining any offices or
positions of authority and decision-making as is the case under other
electoral systems, (b) with no systemic elimination of money entering the
process and impacting or controlling the outcomes prior to, during, or after
elections by organizations and corporations in particular or wealthy
individuals, and (c) with no strong effective monitoring and control over who
gets to have a say and how much of a say over the formulation of public
policies, the interpretation of public policies, or the implementation of public
policies. It seems to be a sure fire route to cooptation and limiting the
effectiveness of radical, progressive groups, or any other groups that make up
the “99%” in a many that will make it appear as if they have some say or power
while simultaneously blunting the radical or revolutionary edge of their demands
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dlj725@hughes.net
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> December 28, 2011 8:18 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Peace-discuss] Fw: [socialistdiscussion] occupy &
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<P>I met a guy at Occupy Oakland who is from Ohio. He was telling me that in
Ohio the Occupy movement has set up a political party and is running candidates
for office. I thought maybe he was wrong on this, so I did a google search. Sure
enough, I came up with this: <A
href="http://www2.ohiovotes2011.com/news/2011/nov/05/ohio-occupy-movement-spawns-political-party-ar-817254/">http://www2.ohiovotes2011.com/news/2011/nov/05/ohio-occupy-movement-spawns-political-party-ar-817254/</A><BR><BR>It
seems to me that here in Oakland, the time to raise the issue of a new workers'
party may be drawing close.<BR><BR>John<BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>"Poems don't
belong to those who write them; they belong to those who need them" - from movie
"Il Postino"<BR>Check out: <A href="http://worldwidesocialist.net/blog/"
target=_blank>http://worldwidesocialist.net/blog/</A>
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