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I think that Libs and Progs would agree that the burden of health care
on the average citizen is much too high.<br>
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Both should agree that government is aligning with the medical-big
pharma-insurance industrial complex and<br>
is systematically defrauding and despoiling the public.<br>
<br>
Both can agree that the money spent for war materiel and mercenaries
and bribes could be better spent at home.<br>
<br>
(That may unfortunately come to pass sooner than we think, and not what
we had in mind.)<br>
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On 1/13/2012 10:26 AM, Brussel, Morton K wrote:
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This is a case of Greenwald being in accord with Ron Paul-like
Libertarians on the issues to be discussed—civil liberties and how they
are affected by wars and the imperial mindset, but I believe Greenwald
would never subscribe to the economic tenets of Paul-like Libertarians
(issues such as no federal social security or national health plans,
for example), far from it. However, he clearly sees a value to link
with the anti-war Libertarians in order to educate the populace to the
current threats to civil rights and the general welfare.
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<div>On Jan 12, 2012, at 4:22 PM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">This upcoming event in
Indianapolis would surely be worth attending. The one
<br>
in Murfreesboro TN would definitely be more Fun, I think, and
convenient for those in the south.<br>
<br>
The tour is sponsored by Jeff Frazee's YAL and Jacob Hornberger's FFF.<br>
Frazee I know personally. He is a really good guy.<br>
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*<br>
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Glenn Greenwald you no doubt know. Maybe you already read his column in
Salon.<br>
Greenwald is currently an ex-pat living in South America.<br>
It's significant that he, a Progressive, is venturing back to the USA
and working with FFF,
<br>
an openly Libertarian organization.<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
The highly intelligent and principled legal scholar Bruce Fein spoke at
the Rally for the Republic in 2008.
<br>
He has called for the impeachment of Dick Cheney, Bill Clinton, George
W Bush,<br>
and Barack Obama for heinous crimes against the Constitution. <br>
Glenn Greenwald wrote regarding Fein's 2010 book "American Empire:
Before the Fall":<br>
<blockquote><i><font color="#3333ff"> <font color="#000099">"The
central problem Fein examines — the nation’s conduct as a
world-dominating imperial power rather than a republic — infects and
exacerbates virtually every serious political and cultural problem. It
drains our financial resources and threatens the country with
debt-fueled collapse. It precludes spending on the welfare of American
citizens for education, infrastructure and entitlements for the needy.
It is what justifies the endless erosion of civil liberties and the
acquiescence of limitless, unchecked power to the Executive Branch. It
is what causes the nation to be plagued by a bloated,
borderline-omnipotent National Security and Surveillance State. It even
ironically weakens us militarily and renders us far more vulnerable to
attack via overstretch and commitments beyond our means. And most of
all, it degrades the American character by reducing us to a
militaristic, war-fighting state, wallowing in our own fears,
insecurities, hatreds and weaknesses."</font></font></i><br>
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*<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Fein#cite_note-fdlbooksalon.com-26"><span></span></a>Jacob
Hornberger heads up the Future of Freedom Foundation, a Libertarian
organization.<br>
Hornberger sends out a daily summary of important articles from around
the 'net.<br>
FFF's meetings are quite significant. Check out their 2007 and 2008
conferences on<br>
American Foreign Policy: (I particularly liked Laurence Vance's take
on Christianity and War.).<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.fff.org/classroom/main.html">http://www.fff.org/classroom/main.html</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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*<br>
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Jack Hunter (aka The Southern Avenger) is a blogger and journalist. He
has a way with words<br>
and cuts to the heart of matters.<br>
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<span
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New York, NY</td>
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Indianapolis, IN</td>
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<span
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State University</span><br>
Murfreesboro, TN</td>
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<span
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University</span><br>
Columbus, OH</td>
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<span style="color: rgb(20, 117, 143);"><strong>F
E A T U R I N G </strong></span><strong><br>
</strong><span style="color: rgb(20, 117, 143);">JACOB
HORNBERGER</span>
<blockquote><em>Jacob Hornberger is founder and
president of The Future of Freedom Foundation. He received his B.A.
degree in economics from Virginia Military Institute and his law degree
from the University of Texas. He was civil and criminal trial attorney
in Texas for 12 years and also served as an adjunct professor of law
and economics at the University of Dallas. He is a regular libertarian
commentator on Judge Andrew Napolitano's Freedom Watch on the Fox
Business Network.</em></blockquote>
<span style="color: rgb(20, 117, 143);">BRUCE FEIN</span>
<blockquote><em>Bruce Fein graduated from Harvard
Law School with honors in 1972. After a coveted federal judicial
clerkship, he joined the U.S. Department of Justice where he served as
assistant director of the Office of Legal Policy, legal adviser to the
assistant attorney general for antitrust, and the associate deputy
attorney general. He has authored several volumes on the United States
Supreme Court, the U.S. Constitution, and international law.</em></blockquote>
<span style="color: rgb(20, 117, 143);">GLENN
GREENWALD</span>
<blockquote><em>Glenn Greenwald is a former
constitutional and civil rights litigator and is the author of two New
York Times bestselling books on the Bush administration’s executive
power and foreign policy abuses. Greenwald was named by The Atlantic as
one of the 25 most influential political commentators in the nation. He
is the recipient of the first annual I.F. Stone Award for Independent
Journalism, and is the winner of the 2010 Online Journalism Association
Award for his investigative work on the arrest and oppressive detention
of Bradley Manning.</em></blockquote>
<span style="color: rgb(20, 117, 143);"><strong>M
O D E R A T O R</strong></span><strong>
<br>
</strong><span style="color: rgb(20, 117, 143);">JACK
HUNTER</span>
<blockquote><em>Jack Hunter is a frequent guest
host for The Mike Church Show on Sirius/XM’s Patriot channel and is a
frequent guest on “The Savage Nation” with nationally syndicated talk
radio host Michael Savage. His writing has appeared at The American
Spectator,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://Lewrockwell.com">Lewrockwell.com</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://CampaignforLiberty.com">
CampaignforLiberty.com</a>, and in Young American Revolution, the
official magazine of the youth activist organization Young Americans
for Liberty, to which he is also a contributing editor. Jack also
assisted Sen. Rand Paul with his book The Tea Party Goes to Washington,
released by Center Street in February 2011.</em></blockquote>
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