<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Some discussion from the left that the Supremes' tossing of Obamacare would be good news b/c Obama'd hafta revisit Single Payer, to be promoted as Medicare For All... which for sure would ensure his November win. Anybody care to weigh in on this? <br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 3/25/12, David Johnson <i><dlj725@hughes.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Single Payer and the Supreme Court (Single-Payer Action)<br>To: "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj@pigs.ag><br>Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 8:58 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1607166400">
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<div><font face="Arial">Well Wayne,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">The point is that it is long overdue that the health care
system in the U.S. become like the rest of the civilized world, where people are
not denied health care and die as a result or lose their homes because of an
operation and a prolonged stay in the hospital.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">On a personal note, I am profoundly grateful to Rob
Blagoavich (sp. ) and Illinois Kid Care. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">My daughter had chest pains last month and my wife
took her to the emergency room. After five hours of tests they couldn't
determine what was wrong. She began to feel better by the end of the
day. We got the hospital bill last Thursday for $ 4593.00, but our amount
due was $ 0, thanks to Illinois KidCare.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">The U.S. has the highest health care costs in
the world yet is ranked 37th in quality of care world-wide, worse than Cuba
and Costa Rica and slightly better than Uzbekistan.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">What rubs me the wrong way about the Obama phony
health care bill is that it forces people by threat of a fine to buy an
over-priced inferior product and prevents states like Vermont from having their
own single-payer system which the voters overwhelming approved and also prevents
the republican govenor of North Dakota from establishing a state single-buyer of
prescription drugs from Canada for the citizens of North Dakota.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">As an example, when I quit my job at the School district
and went to buy my monthly supply of high blood pressure medicine without health
insurance. It cost $ 108.00 for a ONE MONTH supply of pills.
Immediately after that experience I found a place in Canada on-line to buy the
very same perscription and dose and it cost me $ 123.00 for a SIX MONTH
supply.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">My German national wife has lived under a national health
care system and the U.S. system and she states emphaticly that we in the U.S.
are getting ripped-off with higher prices and inferior care.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">If someone wants to have private health insurance be
my guest, but I resent the fact ( to put it mildly ) that I ( and others in the
U.S. ) are prevented from having a REAL public option, that being
Medicare part E....Medicare for EVERYONE who wants it.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">David Johnson </font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="ewj@pigs.ag" ymailto="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=ewj@pigs.ag">E. Wayne Johnson</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="dlj725@hughes.net" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="peace-discuss@anti-war.net" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@anti-war.net">'Peace-discuss'</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:12
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Single
Payer and the Supreme Court (Single-Payer Action)</div>
<div><br></div>Why am I not surprised that 50 bloodthirsty medical doctors
want to create<br>a public entity with unlimited funding? Amici my
ass. A rose by any other name<br>would smell so sweet.<br><br>Obot &
Co. will hardly allow the hand that supports them and their cronies to be
bitten.<br><br>The single payer movement has lofty and worthwhile goals.
However I dont<br>think that the movement understands the nature or the
character of the industry<br>that they want to revolutionize.<br><br>On
3/26/2012 5:49 AM, David Johnson wrote:
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:13 PM</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;" dir="ltr"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">From:
Russell Mokhiber <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:action@singlepayeraction.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=action@singlepayeraction.org">action@singlepayeraction.org</a>></span></div>
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<blockquote class="yiv1607166400cite" type="cite"><br>Last month, Single
Payer Action, It's Our Economy and a group of 50 doctors filed <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=KGLAtVVlMIZWJlTygw96FiJZJVZnSpSd">a brief</a> with the
Supreme Court.<br><br>We called on the Court to strike down Obama's
mandate.<img alt="[]" src="http://www.singlepayeraction.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012-03-24-12.39.53-1.jpg" width="300" height="225"> <br><br>The mandate that
requires every American citizen to buy a product from private health
insurance corporations.<br><br>We argued that we should instead get rid of
the private health insurance corporations.<br><br>And replace them with
one single payer -- everybody in, nobody out.<br><br>The brief has gained
support from some unlikely sources -- <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=KV8FRJ8RpEln4zN6BcIE0yJZJVZnSpSd">including Dr. Arnold
Relman</a> -- former editor of the <i>New England Journal of
Medicine.<br></i><br>On Tuesday March 27, 2012 at 8:30 am, we will take
our argument to the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court.<br><br>As you can
see, our sign says -- Single Payer Now, Strike Down Obama
Mandate.<br><br>If you are in the area, hope you can join us.<br><br>If
not, check in for updates at <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://singlepayeraction.org/">singlepayeraction.org</a>.<br><br>Onward to Single
Payer<br><br>Russell Mokhiber<br><br>Single Payer
Action<br></blockquote></div></div><br><br></div></div></div></div>
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