<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">From Wikipedia:<div><b><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"Many Democrats blame third party candidate </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader" title="Ralph Nader" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; ">Ralph Nader</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">, claiming he </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_splitting" title="Vote splitting" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; ">split votes</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> with Gore. Nader received 97,000 votes in Florida (for comparison, there were 111,251 </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overvotes" title="Overvotes" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; ">overvotes</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">).</span><sup id="cite_ref-63" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000#cite_note-63" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">[64]</a></sup><span style="font-family: sans-serif;
line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Additionally, Nader received 22,000 votes in New Hampshire, where Bush beat Gore by 7,000 votes. Either state would have won the election for Gore." </span> </b></div><div>The whole entry is at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000</a>
<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 5/30/12, David Johnson <i><dlj725@hughes.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch and tellher what information you want from us so you can be aninformed voter. Today at noon online<br>To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 6:58 PM<br><br><div id="yiv282242025">
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">Jenifer,</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">With all due respect, you are horribly
misinformed.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Start with Greg Pallast's reporting ( the
freelance reporter who broke the story and offered it to CBS and later the rest
of the corporate media and they refused to cover it until Salon.com broke the
story, then they only covered it superficialy. )</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Then see <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.blackboxvoting.org">www.blackboxvoting.org</a>
</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Maybe some others on the list can suggest some
other sources.</font></strong></div>
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">David J.</font></strong></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="dlj725@hughes.net" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:38
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment
to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over
lunch and tellher what information you want from us so you can be aninformed
voter. Today at noon online</div>
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<td valign="top">Uh... as I understand it, the FL debacle wouldn't have
made any difference if the Nader folks had voted against
Bush. <br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 5/29/12, David Johnson <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From:
David Johnson <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</a>><br>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with
IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch and tellher
what information you want from us so you can be aninformed voter.
Today at noon online<br>To: "Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 9:16
PM<br><br>
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<div>" Look what those Nader votes bro't: "</div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Here we go again,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">You still don't get it do you
?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">It was NOT the votes for Nader that
brought Bush and Alito et al, </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">But instead the STOLEN 2000 election that
your boy Al Gore and the corporate democratic party did NOTHING
about !</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">No call for mass protests and general
strikes, which is what happens in REAL democracies when an election is
stolen by fraud, but instead a half ass court case that was not
even appealed. And then blame Nader. The easy way out and
simaltaneously a distraction. Brought to you by the corporate
controlled DNC ( Democratic National Commitee ).</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I am PROUD that I voted for Nader and I
REFUSE to buy into the two party shellgame that you
advocate.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I want REAL change, not phoney
rhetoric.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">The last democratic I voted for and
SUPPORTED at the national level was Dennis Kucinich, and look
what the DNC did to him in collusion with the RNC.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Look where electing Obama and for a while
a dem controlled House and Senate got us...... </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">No where but WORSE !</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Remember Nancy Pelosi on election night
2006 when word came on the corporate media that the Dems had just
taken control of both the House and Senate ?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">What were the first words out of her
mouth.....</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">" Impeachment is off the table "
!</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Gee, kind of an odd statement from a
leader of the so called " opposition " party. In most democracies in
the world, the head of a REAL opposition political party would have
called for the IMMEDIATE formation of an impeachment hearing and the
begining of reversing specific policies of the Bush
crime family. </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">But not from Nancy and the dems, their
main priority was to protect one of their own ( the 1% ) even if he
played on the other team.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Four years after electing Obama the same
policies of the 1% are being impemented that Obama
supports ; endless war, no public health care, attacks upon the
standard of living of Working people, attempts to privatize social
security and medicare, and the list goes on and on and
on...!</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">There will NEVER be change for the better
in this country unless one of three things happen :</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">1) Form a third party across the
country whose main platform objective is to REFUSE ANY AND ALL
CORPORATE MONEY and start with local elections, working up to
state races and then on to national races</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">2) Take over the democratic party and run
candidates in the primaries who refuse to take CORPORATE MONEY,
against the corporate backed candidates of the DNC and if they lose to
the corporate backed candidates, REFUSE to back
the corporate dem in the general election.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">None of this " Oh but I must support
the party's elected candidate ". </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">3) Take over the republican party and
do the same thing as above.</font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So keep voting for those democrats and
see where it gets us, more of the SAME bullshit !</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">David Johnson</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss
List</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="kmedina67@gmail.com">Karen Medina</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 29, 2012
5:06 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] my
comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie
Kranich today over lunch and tellher what information you want from
us so you can be aninformed voter. Today at noon online</div>
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<td valign="top">Best is a relative term. Obama is definitely
the far lesser of two evils. Surely you no NOT want Romney
running things foreign and domestic... naming the next Supreme
Court Justice(s)??? Look what those Nader votes bro't: Geo
Bush and Roberts and Alito. Nuff said. <br><br>--- On
<b>Fri, 5/25/12, Karen Medina <i><<a rel="nofollow">kmedina67@gmail.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From:
Karen Medina <<a rel="nofollow">kmedina67@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with
Illinois Public Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch
and tell her what information you want from us so you can be
an informed voter. Today at noon online<br>To:
"Peace-discuss List"
<Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>Date: Friday,
May 25, 2012, 11:37 AM<br><br>
<div class="yiv282242025plainMail">There is no "best"
candidate to
find.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss
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