<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Wow, you've been paying attn to- and remembering my posts!! <br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 5/31/12, David Johnson <i><dlj725@hughes.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch and tellher what information you want from us so you can be aninformed voter. Today at noon online<br>To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 8:15 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1907368149">
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<div><font face="Arial">What makes you think Gore would not have attacked Iraq
?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">Go look at the roll call vote of the dems who supported
the invasion.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">If it wasn't Allito and Roberts appointed, it would have
been some other corporate hacks who would have been equally as bad.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">But Jenifer,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Let's stop for a moment and look at this current situation
we are in logically based on the facts.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">From what I have seen from your postings, you are
;</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">1) A supporter of Bradley Manning and Julian
Assagne</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">2) You are opposed to the drone wars and extrajudicial
murders</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">3) You are a retired Union Public School Teacher who
believs in a strong Public Education system and decent Union salaries and
benefits for current Teachers and the School Support Staff.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">4) You believe in Universal Health Care for
all</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">5) You are in favor of free or at the very least cheap
Higher Education.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">6) You support Social Security</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">7) You are opposed to the continued occupations of Iraq
and Afganistan.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Am I wrong on any of these assumptions ?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">David J.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="dlj725@hughes.net" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:03
AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment
to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over
lunch and tellher what information you want from us so you can be aninformed
voter. Today at noon online</div>
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<td valign="top">So.... Gore would have attacked Iraq... and then
appointed Roberts and Alito?? <br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 5/30/12, David
Johnson <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From:
David Johnson <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</a>><br>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with
IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch and tellher
what information you want from us so you can be aninformed voter.
Today at noon online<br>To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 10:40
PM<br><br>
<div id="yiv1907368149">
<div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Wikipedia is NOT a reliable
source.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">It is a series of postings by various
individuals and unless it is challenged it stays
posted.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Read Greg Pallast's story about the vote
fraud in Florida.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Gore won Florida and the
Presidency.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">But regardless, I still would have voted
for Nader, because Al Gore is the one along with Clinton
who brought us ;</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">NAFTA, the WTO treaty, GATT, the
elimination of the Glass Stiegel ( sp.) act, and the begining of the
loss of habeeous corpus rights in the U.S..</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Both Gore and Bush worked for the
same corporate masters, and there was no difference between the two,
as is there is no difference in the policies between Obama and
Bush.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">My point is the same Jenifer, it is NOT
good democrats and bad republicans, it is the corporate money that has
bought both parties.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">It is we the people against the
corporate interests, regardless of what party label they
wear.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Until we stop voting for candidates who
take corporate money, NOTHING will change for the
better.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">David J.</font></strong></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss
List</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 30, 2012
9:31 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] my
comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie
Kranich today over lunch and tellher what information you want from
us so you can be aninformed voter. Today at noon online</div>
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<td valign="top">From Wikipedia:
<div><b><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;">"Many
Democrats blame third party candidate </span><a rel="nofollow" style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE:none;LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(11,0,128);TEXT-DECORATION:none;" title="Ralph Nader" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader">Ralph Nader</a><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;">,
claiming he </span><a rel="nofollow" style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE:none;LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(11,0,128);TEXT-DECORATION:none;" title="Vote splitting" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_splitting">split votes</a><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;"> with
Gore. Nader received 97,000 votes in Florida (for comparison,
there were 111,251 </span><a rel="nofollow" style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE:none;LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(11,0,128);TEXT-DECORATION:none;" class="yiv1907368149mw-redirect" title="Overvotes" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overvotes">overvotes</a><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;">).</span><sup style="LINE-HEIGHT:1em;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;" id="yiv1907368149cite_ref-63" class="yiv1907368149reference"><a rel="nofollow" style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE:none;WHITE-SPACE:nowrap;COLOR:rgb(11,0,128);TEXT-DECORATION:none;" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000#cite_note-63">[64]</a></sup><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:19px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;"> Additionally,
Nader received 22,000 votes in New Hampshire, where Bush beat
Gore by 7,000 votes. Either state would have won the election
for Gore." </span> </b></div>
<div>The whole entry is at <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000</a>
<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 5/30/12, David Johnson
<i><dlj725@hughes.net></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From:
David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>Subject: Re:
[Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with
IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch
and tellher what information you want from us so you can be
aninformed voter. Today at noon online<br>To: "Peace-discuss
List" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer
Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date: Wednesday,
May 30, 2012, 6:58 PM<br><br>
<div id="yiv1907368149">
<div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Jenifer,</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">With all due respect, you are
horribly misinformed.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Start with Greg Pallast's
reporting ( the freelance reporter who broke the story and
offered it to CBS and later the rest of the corporate media
and they refused to cover it until Salon.com broke the
story, then they only covered it superficialy.
)</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Then see <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.blackboxvoting.org">www.blackboxvoting.org</a>
</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Maybe some others on the list
can suggest some other sources.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">David J.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial"></font></strong> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original Message -----
</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</a>
</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May
30, 2012 2:38 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd: Chat with
IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich today over lunch
and tellher what information you want from us so you can
be aninformed voter. Today at noon online</div>
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<td valign="top">Uh... as I understand it, the FL
debacle wouldn't have made any difference if the
Nader folks had voted against Bush. <br><br>---
On <b>Tue, 5/29/12, David Johnson <i><<a rel="nofollow">dlj725@hughes.net</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From:
David Johnson <<a rel="nofollow">dlj725@hughes.net</a>><br>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd:
Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie Kranich
today over lunch and tellher what information you
want from us so you can be aninformed voter. Today
at noon online<br>To: "Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "Jenifer
Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com><br>Date:
Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 9:16 PM<br><br>
<div id="yiv1907368149">
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<div>
<div>" Look what those Nader votes bro't: "</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Here we go
again,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">You still don't get
it do you ?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">It was NOT the votes
for Nader that brought Bush and Alito et al,
</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">But instead the
STOLEN 2000 election that your boy Al
Gore and the corporate democratic party did
NOTHING about !</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">No call for mass
protests and general strikes, which is what
happens in REAL democracies when an election is
stolen by fraud, but instead a half ass court
case that was not even appealed. And then blame
Nader. The easy way out and simaltaneously a
distraction. Brought to you by the corporate
controlled DNC ( Democratic National Commitee
).</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I am PROUD that I
voted for Nader and I REFUSE to buy into the two
party shellgame that you advocate.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I want REAL change,
not phoney rhetoric.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">The last democratic I
voted for and SUPPORTED at the national level
was Dennis Kucinich, and look what the DNC did to
him in collusion with the RNC.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Look where electing
Obama and for a while a dem controlled House and
Senate got us...... </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">No where but WORSE
!</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Remember Nancy Pelosi
on election night 2006 when word came on the
corporate media that the Dems had just taken
control of both the House and Senate
?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">What were the first
words out of her mouth.....</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">" Impeachment is off
the table " !</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Gee, kind of an odd
statement from a leader of the so called "
opposition " party. In most democracies in the
world, the head of a REAL opposition political
party would have called for the IMMEDIATE
formation of an impeachment hearing and the
begining of reversing specific policies
of the Bush crime family. </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">But not from Nancy
and the dems, their main priority was to protect
one of their own ( the 1% ) even if he played on
the other team.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Four years after
electing Obama the same policies of the 1%
are being impemented that Obama
supports ; endless war, no public health
care, attacks upon the standard of living of
Working people, attempts to privatize social
security and medicare, and the list goes on and on
and on...!</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">There will NEVER be
change for the better in this country unless one
of three things happen :</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">1) Form a third party
across the country whose main platform
objective is to REFUSE ANY AND ALL CORPORATE
MONEY and start with local elections, working
up to state races and then on to national
races</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">2) Take over the
democratic party and run candidates in the
primaries who refuse to take CORPORATE MONEY,
against the corporate backed candidates of the DNC
and if they lose to the corporate backed
candidates, REFUSE to back the corporate dem
in the general election.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">None of this
" Oh but I must support the party's elected
candidate ". </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">3) Take over the
republican party and do the same thing as
above.</font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So keep voting for
those democrats and see where it gets us, more of
the SAME bullshit !</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">David
Johnson</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;">----- Original
Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="kmedina67@gmail.com">Karen
Medina</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:06 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd:
Chat with IllinoisPublic Media's Kimberlie
Kranich today over lunch and tellher what
information you want from us so you can be
aninformed voter. Today at noon online</div>
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<td valign="top">Best is a relative term. Obama is
definitely the far lesser of two evils. Surely
you no NOT want Romney running things foreign
and domestic... naming the next Supreme Court
Justice(s)??? Look what those Nader votes bro't:
Geo Bush and Roberts and Alito. Nuff
said. <br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 5/25/12, Karen
Medina <i><<a rel="nofollow">kmedina67@gmail.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;"><br>From:
Karen Medina <<a rel="nofollow">kmedina67@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] my comment to WILL/IPR Fwd:
Chat with Illinois Public Media's Kimberlie
Kranich today over lunch and tell her what
information you want from us so you can be an
informed voter. Today at noon online<br>To:
"Peace-discuss List"
<Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>Date:
Friday, May 25, 2012, 11:37 AM<br><br>
<div class="yiv1907368149plainMail">There is no
"best" candidate to
find.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss
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