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<p class="MsoNormal">Brothers and Sisters,</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">At the risk of sounding hopelessly mambi-pambi, let me
suggest that the two different perspectives being offered here may actually be
reconciled by way of addressing the question: “Where do we go from here?”<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Both sides in this email debate want to achieve
a single-payer system.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>One side is a bit
more optimistic about ACA, regarding it as a stepping stone in the path to
single payer.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The other is much more
pessimistic (okay, David J. is very pessimistic), but certainly they would be
supportive of all serious efforts to move the country towards single-payer. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As John Nichols argues (see his article below), currently
the most viable approach towards implementing single-payer is at the state
level.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Both Vermont
and Montana have applied for
waivers from ACA in order to implement single-payer systems in their
states.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Waivers are required because single-payer
approaches are not included among ACA’s identified delivery systems and
approaches – and it is, of course, a solid bet that the insurance companies are
going to lobby to prevent such waivers from being granted. Alternately, if
waivers can be granted and if the Federal “matching” dollars that ACA offers can
be channeled into these programs, then in a very real sense ACA does become a
platform for advancing single-payer.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>Beyond this kind of a scenario – a kind of sneaking single-payer in at
the state level through the back door of ACA – I am not hearing much by way of
practical strategies for achieving single-payer in the current political context. But others may have more info in this regard.<br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p>But to increase the probability that waivers can be granted and that federal
funds can be tapped in the face of insurance industry power requires
mobilization. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>This means both sides of
this email debate have to work together in the very near term to identify and
advance an agenda in support of state experiments in single-payer. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>What that agenda might be for residents in our
area is obviously yet to be identified.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>What is even more obvious, however, is the harm done by questioning the
progressive credentials of long-time social justice activists over what amounts
to differences in tactical positions.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>These charges take a toll.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>They also
make it even harder to move forward together in future.</p><p><br></p><p>Solidarity,</p><p><br></p><p>Pat Simpson</p><p><br> </p>
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<p>There have been few steadier Congressional hands throughout he debate over
healthcare reform than that of <a href="http://www.sanders.senate.gov/">Vermont
Senator Bernie Sanders</a>. Principled in his support for the real reform of
“Medicare for All,” yet pragmatic in his advocacy for Affordable Care Act
provisions that expand public health programs and allow states to experiment
with single-payer options, Sanders has been in the thick of every fight over
President Obama’s signature reform. And the ensuing legislative and legal
battles over its implementation.</p>
<p>What Sanders says about Thursday’s Supreme Court decision upholding the ACA
provides important insights for progressives as they respond to a complex
decision that, in the words of the <a href="http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/">National Nurses United union,</a>
“should not be seen as the end of the efforts by health care activists for a
permanent fix of our broken health-care system.”</p>
<p>So what does Sanders say?</p>
<p>On the ruling, <a href="http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=8beaca2a-ede7-4add-97ca-18865c0eb0c3">his
line is upbeat</a>:</p>
<p>Today is a good day for millions of Americans who have pre-existing
conditions who can no longer be rejected by insurance companies. It is a good
day for families with children under 26 who can keep their children on their
health insurance policies. It is a good day for women who can no longer be
charged far higher premiums than men.</p>
<p>It is a good day for 30 million uninsured Americans who will have access to
healthcare. It is a good day for seniors who will continue to see their
prescription drug costs go down as the so-called doughnut hole goes away. It is
a good day for small businesses who simply cannot continue to afford the
escalating costs of providing insurance for their employees. It is a good day
for 20 million Americans who will soon be able to find access to community
health centers.</p>
<p>But that does not mean that Sanders is satisfied.</p>
<p>“In my view, while the Affordable Care Act is an important step in the right
direction and I am glad that the Supreme Court upheld it, we ultimately need to
do better,” the independent senator says. “If we are serious about providing
high-quality, affordable healthcare as a right, not a privilege, the real
solution to America’s
health care crisis is a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. Until then, we
will remain the only major nation that does not provide health care for every
man, woman and child as a right of citizenship.”</p>
<p>Sanders’s Vermont is taking the lead in <a href="http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20120627/NEWS/306270017/Supreme-Court-decision-not-expected-derail-Vermont-s-single-payer-experiment?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE">seeking
to implement a state-level single-payer system</a>—much as Canadian provinces
too the lead in the 1940s and 1950s in developing who would eventually be that
country’s national healthcare system. The court’s ruling won’t slow that push
down, and it could actually speed it up, as attention focuses on fights over
state-run Medicaid programs. Sanders says, “I hope our state will be a model to
show the rest of the nation how to provide better care at less cost to more
people.”</p>
<p>Agreed. Amid the celebration of the Supreme Court ruling by those who did
not want to go backward, there is a need for a firm focus on going forward.
“Stepping up the fight for Medicare for All is even more critical in the midst
of the still persistent economic crisis,” notes National Nurses United
co-president Deborah Burger, RN, who noted that nurses have seen deep declines
in health status among patients suffered the loss of jobs, homes and insurance
coverage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/blog/entry/lets-get-healthcare-reform-right-with-medicare-for-all/">NNU
notes that </a>“the Affordable Care Act still leaves some 27 million people
without health coverage, does little to constrain rising out of pocket health
care costs, or to stop the all too routine denials of needed medical care by
insurance companies because they don’t want to pay for it.”</p>
<p>It is for that reason that NNU co-president Jean Ross, RN, echoes Sanders:
“The continuing fiscal crisis at all levels of government and the anemic
economic recovery remind us that rising healthcare costs and shifting costs to
workers burden our society, cause much of these fiscal problems, and limit the
opportunities for working people. Only real cost control through a national
health program can solve this crisis. Improved Medicare meets that challenge.”</p>
<p>“Medicare is far more effective than the broken private system in
controlling costs and the waste that goes to insurance paperwork and profits,
and it is universally popular, even among those who bitterly opposed the Obama
law,” adds NNU co-president Karen Higgins, RN. “Let’s open it up to everyone,
no one should have to wait to be 65 to be guaranteed healthcare.”</p>
<p>That’s correct.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court’s ruling can be celebrated on some levels, as Sanders well
notes.</p>
<p>But the senator and his allies in the struggle for the real reform of
Medicare for All speak a profound truth when they say, “We ultimately need to
do better.… the real solution to America’s
health care crisis is a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system.”</p>
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<p>Today Vermont Governor Peter Shumlin <a href="http://news.consumerreports.org/health/2011/05/vermont-establishes-road-map-for-single-payer-health-care.html">signed
a truly historic law</a> that will put Vermont
on the path towards being the first state in America
with a progressive and unified health care system.</p>
<p>The goal of the Vermont law is
to integrate all the pieces of America’s
byzantine health insurance system into one system overseen by the state, and to
achieve the benefits of single payer. This universal, publicly financed system
will be called Green Mountain Care.</p>
<p>While the law puts Vermont on
the path to achieving this goal, there are still some major hurdles. By 2013
the state will need to decide on revenue sources to pay for some parts of it.
An integral part of addressing the funding issue will be the need for
multiple waivers from several federal laws that will allow the state to fold
the administration and funding of federal insurance programs into Green
Mountain Care.</p>
<p>Some of the potential waivers include:</p>
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<p>The more favorable terms of the the waivers, the better Vermont
will be able to fund the program and increase efficiency by streamlining the system
in the state.</p>
<p>While waivers from many of the provisions of the ACA need congressional
approval, others are at the discretion of the Department of Health and Human
Services. HHS has been <a href="http://my.firedoglake.com/kevinzeese/2011/03/21/one-year-anniversary-the-incredible-shrinking-obama-health-care-law/">granting
waivers freely to corporations like McDonalds</a> that want to offer worse
coverage to their employees than the ACA mandates. They’ve also been
granting waivers to states <a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110526/BUSINESS/105260325/Delaware-seeks-health-care-law-waiver">seeking
lower medical loss ratios</a>, which basically allows them to offer junk
insurance on the exchanges.</p>
<p>Under current law, it’s not possible to get waivers from the exchange/tax
credit provisions of the Affordable Care Act until 2017 unless the Congress
passes the <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/11/18/wyden-brown-head-bipartisan-effort-to-move-up-start-date-for-state-health-plan-innovation/">Wyden-Brown
“Empowering States to Innovate Act</a>.” This will likely be what delays Vermont
from fully realize its goal until 2017. But the other federal waivers are
equally if not more important to the plan’s success.</p>
<p>For example, Medicaid and Medicare cover roughly 35 percent of people in the
state, while the individual exchange created by the ACA will likely only cover
about 5 percent. Since the goal of the Vermont plan is to produce greater
efficiency by centralizing, standardizing, and simplify the administration of
the health care system, the more people that can be brought into the new
unified Green Mountain Care plan,the better it will function. If HHS does
not grant those waivers, it will leave a third of the state outside the plan
and it will serious hamper its effectiveness.</p>
<p>Getting waivers from HHS is going to be an important part of any state plan
to implement their own system. And President Obama <a href="http://pnhpcalifornia.org/2011/02/obama-backs-moving-up-state-health-care-waiver-to-2014/">has
already expressed his support</a> for allowing states to begin receiving
waivers from the ACA in 2014 rather than waiting until 2017. That’s why
FDL is joining with PNHP to ask HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to commit to
granting Vermont the waivers it
needs to make Green Mountain Care the best program it can possibly be for the
people of Vermont.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://action.firedoglake.com/VThealthcare">You can sign
the petition here.</a></strong></p>
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<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Claudia Lennhoff" <claudia@shout.net><br><b>To: </b>"Gene Vanderport" <lightport@sbcglobal.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"JWJ C-U" <centralILJwJ@yahoogroups.com>, "Dave Powers" <pengdust@aol.com>, "Neil Parthun" <lennybrucefan@gmail.com>, "sf-core" <sf-core@yahoogroups.com>, "Colm Mistéil" <colmmisteil@gmail.com>, "Claudia Lennhoff" <claudia@shout.net>, "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky@yahoo.com>, occupycu@lists.chambana.net, "stefen robinson" <stefenrobinson@yahoo.com>, "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, "William Bloomington Campbell" <bill@campbellkording.com>, "Bill Gorrell" <laborer@mchsi.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:04:49 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [OccupyCU] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day<br><br>Dear All,<br><br>Gene, I agree with you.<br><br>For what it's worth, I believe that you can be both a single payer <br>supporter/activist, and someone who ALSO sees how the health reform law <br>will benefit millions of people, AND how it will help pave the way for <br>universal health care and even single payer in our country (both through <br>the content of the law, and also through the community organizing <br>possibilities implementation of health reform presents).<br><br>Saying that the ACA will benefit people in real ways does not mean you <br>should lose your single-payer supporter/activist credentials. It just <br>means that you realistically understand that millions of people in our <br>country, and thousands in our cities and county locally, WILL have their <br>lives improved by having access to insurance and therefore to health care.<br><br>I see people's lives and health improve every single day when they <br>qualify for health insurance -- whether it's Medicaid or Medicare <br>(socialized health insurance) or whether it's a private for-profit plan <br>such as Health Alliance, by virtue of gaining coverage through a new job.<br><br>Illinois' own great programs (that have now been slashed in the budget <br>butchery), FamilyCare and All Kids, offered both public and private <br>health coverage (private was subsidized), and those programs DID help <br>thousands of people, the same way that the ACA will. I didn't see the <br>single-payer activists (and I am one) up in arms about those programs <br>when IL created and implemented them. I saw first hand how those <br>programs improved the lives of parents and their children.<br><br>Also, I work closely with the activists and advocates in Mass. who <br>played a big role in getting that program up and going (and many of them <br>are single-payer activists), and I personally know quite a few residents <br>of Mass. who have benefited from the health coverage they got because of <br>that state's program. Those benefits are real and do improve people's lives.<br><br>Is the ACA the way I would have designed universal health care for the <br>United States? No, of course not. I would have designed universal health <br>care as a single payer system -- a modification and expansion of <br>Medicare (Medicare for All!).<br><br>However, it is important to note that even Medicare relies on private <br>health insurance companies. There is no big central Medicare office <br>where Medicare processes all of its health insurance claims. That <br>processing of Part A, Part B, etc. claims takes place through private <br>health insurance companies that bid for, and get the federal government <br>contracts for processing claims in the various regions of the country. <br>So, even with the hallowed Medicare program, there IS a role for private <br>health insurance companies within that program.<br><br>That's a bit of a digression.<br><br>Despite my critiques and disappointments with the health reform law <br>(namely that it so heavily benefits and depends upon private health <br>insurance companies, and continues to commodify health care and health <br>insurance and retain the profit motive in those), I DO believe that the <br>law DOES and WILL provide very important benefits to the people of our <br>nation, and the people in our community.<br><br>It's not helpful to just say that the ACA is bad, just because it's not <br>single-payer. In fact, understanding the ACA inside and out, in a real <br>way, helps us advocates see the opportunities for pushing for <br>single-payer, or pushing for non-profit insurance opportunities which <br>could be transformative for our health care system.<br><br>Here are some facts about the health reform law:<br><br>1. More people WILL be insured because of this bill.<br><br>2. More people ARE ALREADY insured because of this bill -- for example:<br><br>- adult children (up to age 26) who have been able to get on to their <br>parents' health insurance;<br><br>- children who insurance companies could no longer deny coverage for <br>pre-existing conditions;<br><br>- people who got to keep their health insurance when they got diagnosed <br>with a serious illness because health insurance companies are now <br>prohibited from rescinding coverage;<br><br>- people who can not get insurance coverage through the states' <br>pre-existing conditions health insurance plans for the "uninsurable" <br>(Illinois' plan is at: http://insurance.illinois.gov/ipxp/)<br><br>3. Health insurance coverage will expand tremendously in 2014 for <br>millions of previously uninsured individuals. Some will get health <br>insurance through Medicaid (when categorical eligibility will be done <br>away with, and people will qualify solely on the basis of their income <br>-- for example, single, non-disabled adults will be able to qualify). <br>Others will get private health insurance, and many will get that private <br>health insurance subsidized so that it will be affordable for them. The <br>subsidy will be a sliding scale subsidy available to folks who have <br>incomes of up to 400% of the federal poverty level.<br><br>Here is a link to the health insurance premium subsidy calculator:<br>http://healthreform.kff.org/SubsidyCalculator.aspx<br><br>4. Non-profit health insurance CO-OPs (encouraged and supported under <br>the ACA), have tremendous potential to transform the health care system <br>and health care markets, to move them away from the dominance of <br>profit-driven systems<br>(see this opinion piece by Wendell Potter:<br>http://njtoday.net/2012/05/29/opinion-could-nonprofit-health-insurance-plans-be-the-real-reformers/)<br><br>Lastly, as a community organizer, I want to say that being knowledgeable <br>of the ACA and helping people enroll in insurance, provides a foundation <br>for future organizing and for building support for single-payer health care.<br><br>If you continually tell people that the ACA is a piece of crap and that <br>they are being hoodwinked even as they live the new benefits they've <br>gotten, how much credibility will you have? Versus, how much credibility <br>will you have when you say, "this is good, but there's an even better <br>way, and you can help..."<br><br>The Supreme Court decision was a tremendous victory. Gene is right -- it <br>is a step in the right direction (an awkward, complicated, lurching <br>step, but still a step), and we must use it.<br><br>Those are my 2 cents (times 1,000). I won't respond to this thread of <br>e-mails; just wanted to weigh in, as someone who works on this day in <br>and day out and has been fighting for single-payer and universal health <br>care for lots and lots of years.<br><br>Sincerely,<br>Claudia Lennhoff, Executive Director<br>Champaign County Health Care Consumers<br><br><br><br>On 7/1/12 7:28 PM, Gene Vanderport wrote:<br>> More people are insured b'c of this bill than there were insured without<br>> it. It is a step in the right direction, if we use it so.......<br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> *From:* David Johnson <dlj725@hughes.net><br>> *To:* Gene Vanderport <lightport@sbcglobal.net><br>> *Cc:* sf-core <sf-core@yahoogroups.com>; Peace-discuss<br>> <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>; occupycu@lists.chambana.net; JWJ C-U<br>> <centralILJwJ@yahoogroups.com>; William Bloomington Campbell<br>> <bill@campbellkording.com>; Bill Gorrell <laborer@mchsi.com>; Colm<br>> Mistéil <colmmisteil@gmail.com>; Dave Powers <pengdust@aol.com>; david<br>> johnson <dlj725@hughes.net>; Jim Eyman <banjogramps@gmail.com>; Neil<br>> Parthun <lennybrucefan@gmail.com>; Ricky Baldwin<br>> <baldwinricky@yahoo.com>; stefen robinson <stefenrobinson@yahoo.com><br>> *Sent:* Sun, July 1, 2012 7:24:18 PM<br>> *Subject:* Re: [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day<br>><br>> *I respect Michael Moore but this statement from him is DELUSIONAL !*<br>> **<br>> *" Obama moving the ball down the court ", " a victory for the people " ?*<br>> *What planet is he living on ?*<br>> **<br>> *This is NOT the reality of most Working people in this counrty !*<br>> **<br>> *Read my previous post from Doctors for National Healthcare.*<br>> **<br>> *It is easy for Michael Moore, a millionaire, to make such a superfical<br>> statement to defend Obama and the DNC, which he has obviously bought into.*<br>> **<br>> *This phoney Obama healthcare bill does NOTHING to further the cause of<br>> national healthcare for all, in fact in protects and entrenches the<br>> private capitalist health insurance industry and the Pharmacetucial<br>> industry, and will make working people WORSE OFF , with less money and<br>> no and / or inadequate health insurance and it will make OUR work, that<br>> is those who are TRUELY " Socialists " and " Progressives" more<br>> difficult !*<br>> *Which side are YOU TRUELY on ?*<br>> *Working people or the corporate contolled democratic party ?*<br>> *David Johnson*<br>> *'*<br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>><br>> *From:* Gene Vanderport <mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net><br>> *To:* central il jwj <mailto:CentralILJwJ@yahoogroups.com><br>> *Cc:* Socialist Forum <mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com> ; ISO<br>> Champaign <mailto:iso.champaign@gmail.com> ; Central IL Wobs<br>> <mailto:cigmb@iww.org> ; occupycu-bounces@lists.chambana.net<br>> <mailto:occupycu-bounces@lists.chambana.net> ; Occupy Champaign<br>> Urbana <mailto:occupy.cu@gmail.com><br>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:29 PM<br>> *Subject:* [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day<br>><br>><br>> Plese check out the quote below........from Michael Moore......<br>> Germaine<br>> ----- Forwarded Message ----<br>> *From:* "cbloice@comcast.net <mailto:cbloice@comcast.net>"<br>> <cbloice@comcast.net <mailto:cbloice@comcast.net>><br>> *To:* CCDS - Members <Members@lists.cc-ds.org<br>> <mailto:Members@lists.cc-ds.org>><br>> *Sent:* Sun, July 1, 2012 2:58:33 PM<br>> *Subject:* [CCDS Members] Quote of the Day<br>><br>> Quote of the Day<br>> July 1, 2012<br>><br>> 'So take some time tonight to celebrate; this is a<br>> victory for the people. Actually, more than a victory,<br>> it is a mandate that all of us must now make sure<br>> that a second-term Obama continues to move the<br>> ball down the field, toward a system like they have<br>> in every other First World country on the planet. He<br>> simply has to improve Medicare and then expand it<br>> to every citizen in the country. The countries that do<br>> this, their people live an average of two to four years<br>> longer than we do. Is there a reason anyone doesn't<br>> want an extra four years of their lives? Or that our<br>> babies would have a better chance of surviving their<br>> first year like they do in the 48 countries that have a<br>> better infant mortality rate than we do? Exactly who<br>> is opposed to this? You'd have to be a bit.crazy. 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