<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<div>Germaine </div></div><div><br>On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Astrid Berkson <<a href="mailto:astridjb@comcast.net">astridjb@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    tim has decided to close out his congressional career as a
    libertarian because money follows ron paul and tim follows money.
    yes he has voted to withhold funding from the war; also from social
    services, healthcare, the environment, and funding all regulatory
    agencies. he has positioned himself with the naked capitalists. and
    he has signed the rove no tax pledge when it is clear that the
    country can't function under the bush tax levels<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/30/2012 9:27 PM, Germaine Light
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        On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:55 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a>>
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          <dd><i>The last temptation is the greatest treason:</i></dd>
          <dd><i>To do the right deed for the wrong reason.</i></dd>
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          <div>says the poet, and that may well be true for the state of
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          <div>But I'd rather have a majority of the Congress voting
            against a criminal war "for the wrong reason" </div>
          <div>than a minority voting against it for the right
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              <div>On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Germaine Light <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">lightport@sbcglobal.net</a>>
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                  <div>Motive is important <br>
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                    On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:26 PM, "Carl G. Estabrook"
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">What does his motive matter,
                    if he's opposing a criminal war?
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                    <div>Is it better to support a criminal war - for
                      what's imagined to be a good reason? ("We're
                      bringing freedom to the Mideast...")<br>
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                      <div>Which should you vote for?</div>
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                          <div>On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Germaine
                            Light <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">lightport@sbcglobal.net</a>>
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                                    <div>Johnson won' t support it b'c
                                      Obama is democrat.<br>
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                                      On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:51 PM, "Carl
                                      G. Estabrook" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">galliher@illinois.edu</a>>
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                                    <blockquote type="cite">I hope that,
                                      if he becomes the Congressional
                                      representative of the 13th IL CD,
                                      David Gill will vote against
                                      Obama's widening war - from
                                      Central Asia to Central Africa -
                                      as forthrightly and consistently
                                      as Tim Johnson has. I'm not at all
                                      sure he will but would love to be
                                      proved wrong. 
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                                      <div>The child-killer in the White
                                        House has tried to make the war
                                        acceptable by lying that he's
                                        withdrawing. I think David will
                                        support that. Johnson doesn't.
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                                              <div>On Jul 30, 2012, at
                                                7:43 PM, Germaine Light
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                                                    <div>Ricky speaks
                                                      TRUTH<br>
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                                                      On Jul 30, 2012,
                                                      at 6:25 PM, Ricky
                                                      Baldwin <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rbaldwin@seiu73.org">rbaldwin@seiu73.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                                        <p>Actually, as
                                                          you recall,
                                                          Carl, Tim
                                                          Johnson was an
                                                          enthusiastic
                                                          cheerleader
                                                          for the war
                                                          when Bush was
                                                          in office
                                                          until he saw
                                                          the
                                                          handwriting on
                                                          the wall. The
                                                          fact that we
                                                          helped him see
                                                          it with the
                                                          referendum
                                                          votes against
                                                          the war should
                                                          not lessen the
                                                          reality that
                                                          Johnson
                                                          changed out of
                                                          self-interest.
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                                                          Before the
                                                          invasion of
                                                          Iraq Johnson
                                                          claimed at a
                                                          public meeting
                                                          here in town
                                                          that he was
                                                          privy to
                                                          secret
                                                          information
                                                          that the rest
                                                          of us could
                                                          not know
                                                          about, which
                                                          justified his
                                                          unapologetic
                                                          support for
                                                          war. After the
                                                          invasion of
                                                          Iraq he was
                                                          asked about
                                                          that
                                                          information,
                                                          and his
                                                          response that
                                                          we should not
                                                          be "Monday
                                                          morning
                                                          quarterbacking"
                                                          - a bad joke
                                                          because our
                                                          position was
                                                          not
                                                          after-the-fact
                                                          but of course
                                                          had been made
                                                          clear through
                                                          protests and
                                                          letters, etc.,
                                                          well before
                                                          the war. <br>
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                                                          None of that
                                                          swayed him,
                                                          nor did any
                                                          subsequent
                                                          revelations
                                                          about the Bush
                                                          Administration's
                                                          lies, Abu
                                                          Ghraib, the
                                                          dirty
                                                          contracts, and
                                                          so on. He was
                                                          not swayed in
                                                          the least by
                                                          our constant
                                                          criticism,
                                                          either, it
                                                          seems, but in
                                                          the end by a
                                                          clear
                                                          demonstration
                                                          that local
                                                          voters
                                                          overwhelmingly
                                                          opposed the
                                                          war - and
                                                          perhaps by the
                                                          impending end
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