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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>Where has Obama and the Dems gotten us
?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>A CONTINUATION AND EXPANSION of the Bush agenda
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>More War, More income inequality, less Union
power, more repressive laws against our constitutional rights, more corporate
power, an expansion of Corporate health care, a defunding of social security and
future cuts in both Medicare and Social Security already proposed. Further
attacks on Teacher's Unions and Public Education, an expansion of corporate free
trade treaties that eliminate MORE jobs, and the list goes on
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>WAKE -UP !</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial> The ruling class controls BOTH the Repubs
and the Dems via corporate money.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Our only hope is to either form a REAL opposition
non-corporate political party or</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>take control of the Democratic party and run our
own candidates and vote ONLY for those who DO NOT take corporate money
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>To keep unconditionaly and blindly voting for
anyone with a " D " next to their name on the ballot is NOT working, has NOT
worked since 1992 and will NOT work in the future.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>That is unless your happy and content with the
current conditions in this country and the war OF terror the U.S. corporate
empire is waging around the world with OUR tax dollars.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ldamian21@gmail.com
href="mailto:ldamian21@gmail.com">Luis Damián Reyes Rodríguez</A> ; <A
title=lightport@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">Germaine
Light</A> ; <A title=ggregg79@yahoo.com href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">Gregg
Gordon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=peace-discuss@anti-war.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">Peace Discuss</A> ; <A
title=occupycu@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">ocCUpy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OccupyCU] Closer Than You
Think: Top 15 Things Romney andObama Agree On</DIV>
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<DIV>We did indeed... and look what those pure-hearted protest votes got
us -- 8 years of Bush, two wars, 2 super-conservative Supremes,
Citizens' United... just the biggies that come to mind.</DIV>
<DIV>[Discussions do NOT belong on Peace, pls do NOT add Peace List back
to this thread]<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 9/2/12, Gregg Gordon <I><<A
href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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Gregg Gordon <<A
href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree
On<BR>To: "Luis Damián Reyes Rodríguez" <<A
href="mailto:ldamian21@gmail.com">ldamian21@gmail.com</A>>,
"Germaine Light" <<A
href="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">lightport@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>Cc:
"Chris Goodrow" <<A
href="mailto:c_goodrow@hotmail.com">c_goodrow@hotmail.com</A>>,
"Peace Discuss" <<A
href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>,
"Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com>, "ocCUpy"
<occupycu@lists.chambana.net>, "Peace"
<peace@anti-war.net>, "C. G. Estabrook"
<cge@shout.net><BR>Date: Sunday, September 2, 2012, 6:09
PM<BR><BR>
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we have this conversation 12 years ago?<BR>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Luis Damián Reyes
Rodríguez <ldamian21@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Germaine Light
<lightport@sbcglobal.net> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Chris Goodrow
<c_goodrow@hotmail.com>; Peace Discuss
<peace-discuss@anti-war.net>; Jenifer Cartwright
<jencart13@yahoo.com>; Gregg Gordon <ggregg79@yahoo.com>;
ocCUpy <occupycu@lists.chambana.net>; Peace
<peace@anti-war.net>; C. G. Estabrook <cge@shout.net>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday,
September 2, 2012 4:39 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Closer Than You Think:
Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV id=yiv619500102>Wouldn't it be nice to live in a country where
every four years you were not told that there is no alternative?
(sure, Obama is bad, but look at Romney!)<BR>It is a vicious circle!
The only way to get out of it is by breaking it! i.e. stop supporting
the lesser evil and build something independent from Dems and Reps!
<BR>Sure, it will take time... The more urgent it is to start
now!<BR>Here's what folks at the Black Agenda Report have to
say:<BR><A
href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/closer-you-think-top-15-things-romney-and-obama-agree"
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face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=+0><FONT size=3><B>by BAR managing
editor Bruce A. Dixon</B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">Republicans and Democrats, like Romney and
Obama are of one mind on many more things than they disagree about.
From war and empire to their policies on Big Ag, Big Energy, “clean
coal and safe nuclear power,” and the war on drugs their areas of
agreement are vast and troubling, and perhaps far more important than
the rhetorical and stylistic differences highlighted by US political
campaigns.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=4><B>Closer Than You Think: Top 15
Things Romney and Obama Agree On</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=3><B>by BAR managing editor Bruce
A. Dixon</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Too
much agreement between Republicans and Democrats has always been bad
news for those at the bottom of America's class and racial totem
poles. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Back
in 1875, Frederick Douglass </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">observed</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> that it took a war among the whites to free
his people from slavery. What then, he wondered, would an era of peace
among the whites bring us? </FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">He
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">already knew the answer.
Louisiana had its <A href="http://www.knowla.org/entry.php?rec=758"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>Colfax Massacre</A> two years earlier.
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">A</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> wave of thousands upon thousands of <A
href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reconstruction/40acres/sf_violence.html"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>terroristic bombings, shootings,
mutilations, murders and threats</A> had driven African Americans from
courthouses, city halls, legislatures, </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">from </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">their own </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">farms, businesses and </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">private properties and from the
vot</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">ing rolls </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">across the South. </FONT><FONT
face="Arial,
sans-serif">They didn't get the vote back for
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">80</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> years, and they never did get the land back.
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">But n</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">one of that mattered </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">because on</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> the broad and important questions of those
day</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">s</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> there was </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">at last </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">peace between white Republicans and white
Democrats --- squabbles around the edges about who'd get elected, but
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">wide</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> agreement </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">on the rules of the game.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Like
Douglass, the shallow talking heads who cover the 2012 presidential
campaign on corporate media have noticed out loud the remarkable
absence of disagreement between Republican and Democratic candidates
on many matters. They usually mention what the establishment likes to
call “foreign policy.” But the list of things Republicans and Democrat
presidential candidates agree on, from coddling Wall Street
speculators, protecting mortgage fraudsters and corporate wrongdoers
to preventing Medicare For All to so-called “foreign policy,” “free
trade,” “the deficit” “clean coal and safe nuclear power” and
“entitlement reform,” is clearly longer and more important than the
few points of mostly race and style, upon which they
disagree.</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Although unemployment is
the highest it's been since the Great Depression, </B><B>the
federal government</B><B> should </B><B>NOT </B><B>enact any
sort of WPA-style program to put millions of people back to
work.</B> Under Democrat Franklin Roosevelt in the 1930s,
Depression-era unemployment was tackled head on by direct
federal hiring to dig subways, build roads, schools, parks,
sewers, recreational facilities and public buildings. Oblivious
of this history, Democrat Barack Obama maintains that only the
private sector can or should create jobs.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Medicare, Medicaid and
social security are “entitlements” that </B><B>need to be cut to
relieve </B><B>what they call “the deficit.”</B> Republicans
have been on record for this since forever, though they claim
not to want to mess with the Medicare people already over 65 are
getting. One of the first acts of the Obama presidency was to
appoint a bipartisan panel stacked with “deficit hawks” like
Republican Allan Simpson and Democrat Erskine Bowles to
recommend raising retirement ages and cutting back Medicaid,
Medicare and social security, and pass a law directing Congress
to have an up or down no-amendments vote on its recommendations.
Fortunately the “cat food commission”, as it was called, was
deadlocked and offered none. But Obama and top Democrats, most
recently House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi continue to
express their readiness for some kind of “grand compromise” with
Republicans on this issue.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>C</B><B>limate change
treaties and negotiations that might lead to them should be
avoided at all costs. </B>The differences between them are only
style. Democrats admit that climate change exists and is
man-made, Republicans say it's a myth. But both ignored the
Kyoto protocol and Obama like Bush before him, has worked
tirelessly to delay, derail and boycott any actual talks that
might lead to constructive international climate change
agreements.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>NAFTA was such a great
thing it </B><B>really </B><B>should be extended to Central and
South America and the entire Pacific rim.</B> Again, there are
differences in style. On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama
sometimes mumbled about renegotiating parts of NAFTA, and such.
But even before the primaries were done, press reports had him
assuring the Canadian government this was only campaign
rhetoric, raw meat for the rubes. In four years he has pushed
NAFTA-like “free trade” corporate rights agreements with South
Korea, most of Central America and is now secretly hammering out
something called the <A
href="http://www.citizen.org/more-about-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>Trans-Pacific Partnership
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Banksters and Wall Street
speculators deserve their bailouts and protection from criminal
liability, but underwater and foreclosed homeowners deserve
nothing. </B>Well, maybe not exactly nothing. Republicans think
underwater homeowners deserve blame for forcing banksters to
offer millions of fraudulent high-interest loans were then
re-sold to investors around the world. Democrats think
underwater homeowners deserve empty promises of help that never
quite arrives for most of the foreclosed, the about-to-be
foreclosed, their families and communities. But both agree on
free money for banksters and speculators but no moratorium on
foreclosures and no criminal investigations of mortgage and
securities fraud.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Palestinians should be
</B><B>occupied, </B><B>dispossessed and ignored. Iran should be
</B><B>starved and threatened from all sides. Cuba should be
embargoed, and Americans prohibited from going there to see what
its people have done in a half century free of Yankee rule.
</B><B>Black and brown babies and their parents, relatives and
neighbors should be bombed with drones in Pakistan, Yemen,
Somalia and similar places. </B>The politicians and corporate
commentators have a misleading name for this. They call it
“foreign policy.” The realistic term for it is global
empire.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Africa should be
militarized, destabilized, plundered and where necessary,
invaded by proxy armies like those of Rwanda, Ethiopia, Burundi
or Kenya, or directly by Western air and ground forces, as in
Libya. </B>President Georgia Bush announced the formation of
AFRICOM, the US military command for the continent which has
officially swallowed all US civilian diplomatic presence. But
only a black US president, even under the cover of “humanitarian
war” could have invaded an African nation and openly dispatched
special forces to Central Africa.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>US Presidents can kidnap
citizens of their own or any nation on earth from anyplace on
the planet for torture, indefinite imprisonment without trial or
murder them and neighboring family and bystanders at will.</B>
To be perfectly fair, there are distinctions between Republicans
and Democrats here that don't amount to differences. Republicans
Cheney and Bush got their lawyers to say these things were OK
and did them. Democrat Obama got Congress to enact “laws” giving
these acts a veneer of fake legality, something a Republican
probably could not have done. </FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Oil and energy companies,
and other mega-polluters must</B><B> be freed to drill offshore
almost everywhere, and </B><B>permitted </B><B>to poison land
and watersheds with fracking </B><B>to achieve “energy
independence”</B>. The Republicans say “drill baby drill” but it
seems only Democrats can chill out enough supposed
“environmentalists” to make this happen. Obama campaigned on
restricting offshore drilling four years ago, and reversed
himself just before the BP oil disaster in the Gulf. The White
House cooperated with BP in lying to the public about the extent
of the disaster and has shielded BO from paying anything like
the value of actual damages incurred to livelihoods, human lives
and the environment. </FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>The FCC should not and
must not regulate telecoms to ensure that poor and rural
communities have access to internet, or to guarantee network
neutrality. </B>Republicans have always been in favor of digital
redlining, against network neutrality. Barack Obama claimed on
the campaign trail he'd take a back seat to nobody in
guaranteeing network neutrality. But he appointed as FCC chair a
man who helped write the infamous Telecommunications Act of
1995, which gave away the government-built internet backbone to
a handful of immensely powerful telecoms like AT&T and
Comcast, and flatly reversed himself on network neutrality. The
Department of Justice was forced to stop the ATT-T-Mobile merger
by a storm of public outrage, but approved the Comcast-NBC
deal.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Of course there really
ARE such things as “clean coal” and “safe nuclear energy”.</B>
Again these are things Republicans have always pretended to
believe. At the 2008 Democratic convention Democrat Barack Obama
joined them, declaring he intended to be the president of “clean
coal and safe nuclear energy.” Obama is building a wave of 33
nuclear plants across the country, the first two in mostly black
and poor communities of Georgia and South Carolina where leaky
existing nukes are causing cancer epidemics. The people know
these things are myths. But Republican and Democratic candidates
for office, all the way down to state and county officials seem
not to.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>I</B><B>mmigrants must be
jailed and deported in record numbers. </B>To be really fair,
one should note that on this issue Republicans talk a mean game
about sending them all back and jailing tens or hundreds of
thousands along the way. But only President Obama has walked the
walk, deporting over a million immigrants in his term in office,
often with little or no due process and after housing many for
months in atrocious privatized immigration
prisons.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>No Medicare For All.
Forget about it eliminating the Medicare age requirement so that
all Americans would qualify..</B> Republicans never wanted
Medicare even for seniors, let alone everybody. Six or seven
years ago Illinois State Senator Obama was telling audiences
that if they elected Democrats to Congress, the Senate and the
White House, they'd get single payer health care. But once in
office he excluded Medicare for All from the proposals on the
table, and enacted a national version of Massachusetts
RomneyCare, requiring everybody to purchase private health
insurance or be penalized. </FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>No minimum wage increases
for you, no right to form a union, no right to negotiate or
strike if you already have a union, and no enforcement or reform
of existing labor laws. </B>Again, Republicans have always
opposed minimum wage laws. Obama promised to boost the minimum
wage his first two years in office, while he still had
majorities in the House and Senate. But he didn't do this, or
pass legislation beefing up the right to organize unions, which
has been eroded under Democrat and Republican administrations
alike.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>The 40 year war on drugs
must continue, and even mention of the prison state is
unthinkable. </B>There are 2.3 million people in US prisons and
jails today, a per capita total that beats the world.
Politicians of both parties wag their fingers in multiple
directions. But as Michelle Alexander points out, if the US
prison population were rolled back to say, only 1 million, the
level it was about 1980, this would mean one million jobs, as
contractors, sheriffs, cops, bailiffs, judges and functionaries
of all kinds would have to go out and find real jobs.
</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">The
rabbit hole goes still deeper. We didn't have to stop at these fifteen
points of Democrat-Republican agreement, but you get the idea. Just as
in Frederick Douglass's day, the more Democrats and Republicans agree,
the worse it is for the rest of us. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">There was a time when black America had its
own principles, and formed the immovable leftmost rock of the American
polity. But in the 21st century, that rock has been dissolved by a
tide of corporate money. With the rise of a cohort of black corporate
Democrats and a right wing black Democrat in the White House there is
no longer even any vaguely leftish influence on Democratic party
politics. The House Progressive Caucus is the biggest in Congress,
with over seventy members, but is powerless and irrelevant. Except for
stylistic flourishes, the music they listen to and the color of some
faces, the differences between Republicans and Democrats seem to exist
mostly in political marketing campaigns and inside our own
heads.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT color=#800000><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=+0><I>Bruce A. Dixon is managing
editor at Black Agenda Report, and a member of the state committee of
the Georgia Green Party. He can be reached via this site's contact
page, or at bruce.dixon(at)<A href="http://blackagendareport.com/"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>blackagendareport.com</A>.</I></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=yiv619500102gmail_quote>On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM,
Germaine Light <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="/mc/compose?to=lightport@sbcglobal.net" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">lightport@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"
class=yiv619500102gmail_quote>
<DIV>
<DIV>I admit I have not been to Occupy demos since last October, but
I have been to almost every labor protest & event that I
possibly can & sometimes one has to make choices re limited
time. My heart is there with occupy still and I <SPAN>am
VERY active in this community!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>And of course anyone has the right to protest anything!
But I think I have earned a voice in this
conversation!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR>Sent from my iPhone
<DIV>Germaine </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Sep 1, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Chris Goodrow <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=c_goodrow@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:c_goodrow@hotmail.com">c_goodrow@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>
<DIV>I'm just curious, but the people who are opposed to the focus
of a protest? Are these people who actually participate in these
protests?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>How many civilians died in drone strikes this year? How many
Americans were targeted as enemy combatants and killed in the past
two years?<BR><BR>Chris
<DIV><A rel=nofollow>(217) 898-5039</A><BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Sep 1, 2012, at 17:55, "Gregg Gordon" <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=ggregg79@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV><SPAN>So how many Americans died in Iraq this week?
And how's the missile shield in eastern Europe coming (to
cite just two significant differences with the Bush
Administration)?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>Look
-- I'm not saying give anyone a pass on anything. I'm
saying make your point strategically and intelligently.
It's likely to improve your effectiveness.
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Frankly, I don't think there's
anything a handful of people in C-U are going to do in the next
two months that will make an iota's difference to the outcome of
the election </SPAN><I>or</I> the future of Bradley Manning.
I would guess 95% of the people who drive by any such
demonstration will have no idea who Bradley Manning is, and
there's nothing you can put on a placard that will inform them.
It won't even be covered by the local newspaper. So
in that respect, I don't care, but the larger point is worth
considering. Do we do these things to fulfill a sense of
righteous indignation, or are we trying to have an impact on
future events?</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> C. G.
Estabrook <<A href="/mc/compose?to=cge@shout.net"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Gregg Gordon <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=ggregg79@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Jenifer
Cartwright <<A href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>>;
Peace Discuss <<A
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target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>;
ocCUpy <<A href="/mc/compose?to=occupycu@lists.chambana.net"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>>;
Peace <<A href="/mc/compose?to=peace@anti-war.net"
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ymailto="mailto:peace@anti-war.net">peace@anti-war.net</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:23 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace]
[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on
Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6th for Bradley Manning on eve
of Obama's speech?<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>It's important to assess how important the difference it
makes is. The answer seems to be, not much.
<DIV>
<DIV>Obama - although he campaigned against them - followed
Bush's economic and military polices, if in a more brutal and
efficient fashion.
<DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>That may be some slight reason to vote against him, but
it's certainly not a reason to support him.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Sep 1, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Gregg Gordon <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=ggregg79@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I find it mind-boggling that
anyone who lived through the years 2000-2008 really believes
"it makes no difference."<BR>
<DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>
<HR SIZE=1>
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> C. G.
Estabrook <<A href="/mc/compose?to=cge@shout.net"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jenifer Cartwright
<<A href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Peace
Discuss <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@anti-war.net" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>;
ocCUpy <<A
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target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>>;
Peace <<A href="/mc/compose?to=peace@anti-war.net"
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ymailto="mailto:peace@anti-war.net">peace@anti-war.net</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:10 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace]
[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration
on Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6th for Bradley Manning on
eve of Obama's speech?<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>I think it's wrong to give Obama a pass on Bradley
Manning and hold off on condemning his crimes - from the
suppression of WikiLeaks to the murders of Americans and
others - for ostensible fear of a candidate (Romney) whose
positions on economic and military matters are inherently
identical to those of the administration. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"Voting for reform-minded candidates should take about
five minutes, and then we go back to the important work on the
ground to change the conditions in which the mostly farcical
election process proceeds" [Chomsky]. --CGE</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Sep 1, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Jenifer Cartwright <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
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<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>I'm guessing you guys haven't been
listening to the Repub Convention speeches, but Romney
et al are FAR, FAR, FAR worse than Obama et
al... So how 'bout we save our protests until AFTER
the election, and use our energy defeating the LOTS
WORSE evils??? It won't significantly affect YOUR
lives if the Dems are defeated, but it will be
devastating to MILLIONS across the US and the
world.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 8/31/12, Stuart Levy
<I><<A href="/mc/compose?to=stuartnlevy@gmail.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
Stuart Levy <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=stuartnlevy@gmail.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
[Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on
Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6th for Bradley
Manning on eve of Obama's speech?<BR>To: "Peace"
<<A href="/mc/compose?to=peace@anti-war.net"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:peace@anti-war.net">peace@anti-war.net</A>>,
"Peace Discuss" <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@anti-war.net"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>,
"ocCUpy" <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=occupycu@lists.chambana.net"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Date:
Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:26 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV>The wars go on despite the weather and so shall
we (at least we'll try).<BR><BR>Expect AWARE and
CUCPJ at the Farmer's Market tomorrow morning,
8-noon.<BR><BR>And, from 2-4, the AWARE+OccupyCU
demonstration will be at its usual first-Saturday
site,<BR><BR> Main and Neil,
downtown Champaign<BR> 2-4 PM
Saturday, Sept. 1st<BR><BR>If it turns into a real
downpour, we'll retire somewhere nearby for
lunch.<BR><BR><BR><BR>There's also a
nationally-coordinated suggestion for groups to hold
demonstrations on *Thursday, September 6th*, in
support of Bradley Manning --<BR><BR>
"Show Obama that Bradley Manning is our
hero"<BR><BR>Why the 6th? That's the date of
Obama's acceptance speech at the DNC.<BR><BR>To make
a definite *proposal*, how
about:<BR><BR> (proposed)
Demonstration in support of accused whistleblower
Bradley Manning<BR> 5:00PM
Thursday, Sept. 6th<BR> Urbana
Veterans' Memorial<BR>
(that's Broadway and Main, or, the
NW corner of the block where the county courthouse
is)<BR><BR>What do people
think? (Could also make sense to
complain more broadly about Obama's unfulfilled
promise as a peace, civil liberties, etc. candidate
from four years ago.)<BR><BR>If you like the idea
*and* think you can be there for at least part of
5-6PM, please write back (either to <A
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A> or to
occupyCU or to me, but not to the peace list
please).<BR><BR>If we have at least, say, five
people who believe they can do this, then let's go
for it. Meanwhile let's consider Sept. 6th as
still
tentative.<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Peace-discuss
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