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Eastwood put Rominy and GOP neocons who support him in quite a fix,<br>
stating that he was against the wars in afghanistan and Iraq. The
applause <br>
was quite interesting. Some in the crowd "heard" what Eastwood was
saying, and<br>
offered no cheers. But there is a still an antiwar crowd in the GOP
and some of them<br>
really do get it.<br>
<br>
I seriously doubt that the Romulan has any intention of coming home
from anywhere,<br>
and I am pretty sure that his handlers would spike Romney if he started
spouting such <br>
sane anti-war talk.<br>
<br>
Obviously the Eastwood monologue was a strong attack on Obama's
performance,<br>
but I feel it was also an attack on Romney.<br>
<br>
To wit:<br>
<br>
"we do not have to be metal masochists and vote for somebody that <br>
we don’t really even want in office just because they seem to be nice
guys <br>
or maybe not so nice guys..."<br>
<br>
Which seems to describe the very unlikable and not-well-liked Romney.<br>
Even the praise for Romney/Ryan sounds very much like Mark Anthony's<br>
reference to "honourable men".<br>
<br>
For me the most libertarian moment wasnt the mention of the libertarian
ideology but<br>
was the statement <br>
<br>
"we -- we own this country<br>
We -- we own it. <br>
It is not you owning it, and not politicians owning it. <br>
Politicians are employees of ours. "<br>
<br>
*<br>
We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and
overrun by bureaucrats, <br>
the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.”
-Ron Paul<br>
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On 9/2/2012 9:53 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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mission planned, mission accomplished.
Maybe listen again to what all Eastwood covered and see if you don't
agree that he presented the libertarian viewpoint (which many of us
share when it comes to foreign policy ... ) And yes, I do love it that
he said that Romney didn't like Obama's two year plan and would be
bringing the troops home the next morning (don't you???). <br>
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From: Brussel, Morton K <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu"><brussel@illinois.edu></a><br>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Eastwood channels Ron Paul; sticks it to
the Repubs and MSM!!<br>
To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com"><jencart13@yahoo.com></a><br>
Cc: "Peace-discuss" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"><peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></a><br>
Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012, 6:37 PM<br>
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<div>My impressions of Eastwood's speech, following
Greenwald, are best summarized as:
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<div>"bizarre and warped"</div>
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<div>(and paraphrasing) …And he didn't even realize that he
was criticizing the war policies of both parties…</div>
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<div>I certainly wouldn't gloat over Eastwoods remarks,
especially if I intended to vote for Obama. </div>
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<div>--mkb</div>
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<div>On Sep 1, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:</div>
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The Repubs wanted <i>their</i> Hollywood celeb -- Obama had Clooney,
etc -- so they scheduled famously conservative Clint Eastwood to "open"
for Romney, assuming he'd be a strong Romney supporter -- how WRONG
they were!! In case you missed it, here's
<div><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial,san-serif; line-height: 16px;"><b>Clint
Eastwood's Aug 30 speech: </b></span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXBvbRQt20"
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<div> Eastwood channels Ron Paul on
several fronts, deliberately rambling on for 11-12 minutes (instead of
the 5 allotted to him), thus preventing the mushy Romney video from
airing in prime time -- clever design <i>and</i> execution, huh?? HA!!</div>
<div> Eastwood mentions that:
<div>1)<span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Obama
hadn't kept his promise to close Guantanamo b/c too much $$ invested in
it, but that at least Obama had prevented lawful hearings in NYC (irony
x 2)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">2) the</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> US knew the Russians hadn't succeeded in
Afghanistan [ergo the US should NOT have attacked Afghanistan, duh] </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">3)
that Romney objects to Obama's giving the 2 year timeline for troop
withdrawal from Afghanistan, ROMNEY WILL WITHDRAW THEM TOMORROW
MORNING!! (Yeah, right... like, never, and ditto for Iraq... plus,
Romney's speech which followed Eastwood's added Iran and Russia to the
US enemies to be attacked list)</span></div>
<div> Eastwood's closing said that</div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">4)
it's time for a change -- businessmen, not attys (irony?), and that
it's citizens NOT politicians who own the US... and that Romney will go
if he fails.</span></div>
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The Repubs/both Romneys made light of it, and the </span><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">MSM focused on the apparent rambling and
missed/ignored the msg entirely (even David Corn of Mother Jones), tho'
I'm still checking and hoping. </span></div>
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Glenn Greenwald came close on DN! but also missed that this was NOT
rambling, but Eastwood's perfect plan and execution to a) get his
Libertarian points across, while 2) preventing Romney's mushy video
from airing in prime time!!</span><strong
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class="yiv2143224189caps"> GLENN</span> <span
class="yiv2143224189caps">GREENWALD</span>:</strong><span
style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial,san-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 10pt;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial,san-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 10pt;">"Obviously,
that speech was so completely bizarre in all sorts of ways, which is
one of the reasons why I really loved it. It’s—you know, these
conventions are so incredibly suffocatingly scripted and manufactured
and contrived, that to have this sort of moment of spontaneity, as
bizarre and warped as it was, was kind of refreshing. </span><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial,san-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 10pt;">But
it was—the weirdest part of the speech was not only when he criticized
Obama for not pulling the troops out tomorrow, as though Romney would,
when Romney has criticized him from the other direction, saying that
he’s made a mistake by committing to withdraw—the stranger part was he
actually seemed to criticize the commencement of the war in Afghanistan
itself, by saying, "Why didn’t we look at what happened to the Soviet
Union and their experience in occupying Afghanistan for 10 years?"
meaning we should have never commenced that war in the first place. And
strangely, the Republicans, all of whom, with the exception of the Ron
Paul delegates, obviously believe that war is a good war and that we
should stay, somehow cheered. So, it just showed how off script it was
that he was inadvertently criticizing the war policies of both the
Republican and the Democratic parties, I think without his even
realizing that he was doing so.</span><span
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