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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Very good point Gregg
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>And WHY do you think that is
?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>It is because they do not FEAR
us.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>They know that way to many good but
misguided people out there are NOT going to grill and hold accountable Dem
politicians who BETRAY their base and their campaign promises, but will vote for
them no matter HOW BAD they are because they snicker to themselves and say (
like Rahm Emanuelle ) " the left are a bunch of retards !
"</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>"They will vote for us REGARDLESS how bad
we are because they have no where else to go ! "</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Prove them wrong !</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ggregg79@yahoo.com href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">Gregg Gordon</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jencart13@yahoo.com
href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</A> ; <A
title=ldamian21@gmail.com href="mailto:ldamian21@gmail.com">Luis Damián Reyes
Rodríguez</A> ; <A title=lightport@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">Germaine Light</A> ; <A
title=swag901@ymail.com href="mailto:swag901@ymail.com">Stan Waggoner</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=peace-discuss@anti-war.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">Peace Discuss</A> ; <A
title=occupycu@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">ocCUpy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 03, 2012 12:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU]
Closer Than You Think: Top 15 ThingsRomney and Obama Agree On</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes,
there's much that's depressing about the state of our politics, but you can't
expect politicians to act like anything but politicians. And to be
honest, I can't think of anything that's happened in the last 40 years that
would convince a politician that running to the left is a winning
strategy. That's our fault, not theirs.<BR>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jenifer Cartwright <<A
href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Gregg Gordon <<A
href="mailto:ggregg79@yahoo.com">ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>>; Luis Damián Reyes
Rodríguez <<A
href="mailto:ldamian21@gmail.com">ldamian21@gmail.com</A>>; Germaine Light
<<A href="mailto:lightport@sbcglobal.net">lightport@sbcglobal.net</A>>;
Stan Waggoner <<A href="mailto:swag901@ymail.com">swag901@ymail.com</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Peace Discuss <<A
href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>;
ocCUpy <<A
href="mailto:occupycu@lists.chambana.net">occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 3,
2012 11:27 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[OccupyCU] Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree
On<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<TD vAlign=top> [Hey Folks: I've again removed Peace b/c that list
is only for announcements]
<DIV> Yeah, re the Repub strategy -- Bill Moyers had a
depressing NOW show on that. The Dems moved/kept moving to the right in
order to compete (baaad idea)... and then came the teabaggers-Christian
Right-Libertarians, which moved both parties even further right --
shameful for the Dems, and off the charts for the Repubs..
<DIV> If it were possible, I'd gladly remove the
present broken wheel and replace it w/ a brand new one, but no way in
hell that can happen -- a 3-wheeled wagon leaves a lotta collateral
damage. So our only real choice is to work w/ what we have before we no
longer have even that. <BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 9/3/12, Stan Waggoner
<I><swag901@ymail.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN>I think what we need to do is to take back the Democratic
Party. It is easier and quicker to use the wheel you have than
to try to re-invent it. </SPAN></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>The
Conservatives set their plan in motion to take the Republican Party in
1964. It took them 16 years to get to Reagan. If we had
tried to take the Democratic part back since even 1980 perhaps we
could have avoided the Soft coup of 2000, and the outright theft of
the election in Ohio in 2004.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>The
Cons love to hear of liberals trying to build a new party. It
helps <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-0><SPAN>than</SPAN></SPAN> divide
and <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-1><SPAN>conquer</SPAN></SPAN> our
country. We need to get together behind liberal candidates
and use the system built by corporatist Democrats to save our
country. Time is running out. We need to stand behind
Obama, make him sit down for a few minutes so we can hold his feet to
the fire of real hope, and change for our country.</SPAN></DIV>
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sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>Stan
Waggoner</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>AKA
<SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-3><SPAN>Reasonable</SPAN></SPAN> Man
Stan</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Gregg Gordon
<ggregg79@yahoo.com><BR><BR></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Didn't we have this conversation 12 years
ago?</SPAN></DIV>
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class=yiv484664258hr></DIV><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Luis Damián Reyes Rodríguez
<ldamian21@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Closer Than You Think:
Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On<BR> </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV id=yiv484664258>Wouldn't it be nice to live in a country where
every four years you were not told that there is no alternative?
(sure, Obama is bad, but look at Romney!) It is a vicious circle! The
only way to get out of it is by breaking it! i.e. stop supporting the
lesser evil and build something independent from <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-14 class=yiv484664258mark>Dems</SPAN> and
Reps! Sure, it will take time... The more urgent it is to start now!
Here's what folks at the Black Agenda Report have to say:<A
href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/closer-you-think-top-15-things-romney-and-obama-agree"
rel=nofollow
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<H1 class=yiv484664258title>Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things
Romney and Obama Agree On</H1>
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<DIV class=yiv484664258submitted>Wed, 08/29/2012 - 13:37 — Bruce A.
Dixon</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=+0><FONT size=3><B>by BAR managing
editor Bruce A. Dixon</B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">Republicans and Democrats, like Romney and
Obama are of one mind on many more things than they disagree about.
From war and empire to their policies on Big Ag, Big Energy, “clean
coal and safe nuclear power,” and the war on drugs their areas of
agreement are vast and troubling, and perhaps far more important than
the rhetorical and stylistic differences highlighted by US political
campaigns.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=4><B>Closer Than You Think: Top 15
Things Romney and Obama Agree On</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=3><B>by BAR managing editor Bruce
A. Dixon</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Too
much agreement between Republicans and Democrats has always been bad
news for those at the bottom of America's class and racial totem
poles. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Back
in 1875, Frederick Douglass </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">observed</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> that it took a war among the whites to free
his people from slavery. What then, he wondered, would an era of peace
among the whites bring us? </FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">He
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">already knew the answer.
Louisiana had its <A href="http://www.knowla.org/entry.php?rec=758"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>Colfax Massacre</A> two years earlier.
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">A</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> wave of thousands upon thousands of <A
href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reconstruction/40acres/sf_violence.html"
rel=nofollow target=_blank><SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-15
class=yiv484664258mark>terroristic</SPAN> bombings, shootings,
mutilations, murders and threats</A> had driven African Americans from
courthouses, city halls, legislatures, </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">from </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">their own </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">farms, businesses and </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">private properties and from the <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-16
class=yiv484664258mark>vot</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-17
class=yiv484664258mark>ing</SPAN> rolls </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">across the South. </FONT><FONT
face="Arial,
sans-serif">They didn't get the vote back for
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">80</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> years, and they never did get the land back.
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">But n</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">one of that mattered </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">because on</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> the broad and important questions of those
day</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">s</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> there was </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">at last </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">peace between white Republicans and white
Democrats --- squabbles around the edges about who'd get elected, but
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">wide</FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"> agreement </FONT><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">on the rules of the game.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Like
Douglass, the shallow talking heads who cover the 2012 presidential
campaign on corporate media have noticed out loud the remarkable
absence of disagreement between Republican and Democratic candidates
on many matters. They usually mention what the establishment likes to
call “foreign policy.” But the list of things Republicans and Democrat
presidential candidates agree on, from coddling Wall Street
speculators, protecting mortgage fraudsters and corporate wrongdoers
to preventing Medicare For All to so-called “foreign policy,” “free
trade,” “the deficit” “clean coal and safe nuclear power” and
“entitlement reform,” is clearly longer and more important than the
few points of mostly race and style, upon which they
disagree.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Although unemployment is
the highest it's been since the Great Depression, </B><B>the
federal government</B><B> should </B><B>NOT </B><B>enact any
sort of <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-18
class=yiv484664258mark>WPA</SPAN>-style program to put millions
of people back to work.</B> Under Democrat Franklin Roosevelt in
the 1930s, Depression-era unemployment was tackled head on by
direct federal hiring to dig subways, build roads, schools,
parks, sewers, recreational facilities and public buildings.
Oblivious of this history, Democrat Barack Obama maintains that
only the private sector can or should create
jobs.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Medicare, Medicaid and
social security are “entitlements” that </B><B>need to be cut to
relieve </B><B>what they call “the deficit.”</B> Republicans
have been on record for this since forever, though they claim
not to want to mess with the Medicare people already over 65 are
getting. One of the first acts of the Obama presidency was to
appoint a bipartisan panel stacked with “deficit hawks” like
Republican Allan Simpson and Democrat Erskine <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-19 class=yiv484664258mark>Bowles</SPAN>
to recommend raising retirement ages and cutting back Medicaid,
Medicare and social security, and pass a law directing Congress
to have an up or down no-amendments vote on its recommendations.
Fortunately the “cat food commission”, as it was called, was
deadlocked and offered none. But Obama and top Democrats, most
recently House Democratic leader Nancy <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-20 class=yiv484664258mark>Pelosi</SPAN>
continue to express their readiness for some kind of “grand
compromise” with Republicans on this issue.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>C</B><B><SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-21 class=yiv484664258mark>limate</SPAN>
change treaties and negotiations that might lead to them should
be avoided at all costs. </B>The differences between them are
only style. Democrats admit that climate change exists and is
man-made, Republicans say it's a myth. But both ignored the
Kyoto protocol and Obama like Bush before him, has worked
tirelessly to delay, derail and boycott any actual talks that
might lead to constructive international climate change
agreements.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>NAFTA was such a great
thing it </B><B>really </B><B>should be extended to Central and
South America and the entire Pacific rim.</B> Again, there are
differences in style. On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama
sometimes mumbled about renegotiating parts of NAFTA, and such.
But even before the primaries were done, press reports had him
assuring the Canadian government this was only campaign
rhetoric, raw meat for the rubes. In four years he has pushed
NAFTA-like “free trade” corporate rights agreements with South
Korea, most of Central America and is now secretly hammering out
something called the <A
href="http://www.citizen.org/more-about-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>Trans-Pacific Partnership
Agreement</A>.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B><SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-22
class=yiv484664258mark>Banksters</SPAN> and Wall Street
speculators deserve their bailouts and protection from criminal
liability, but underwater and foreclosed homeowners deserve
nothing. </B>Well, maybe not exactly nothing. Republicans think
underwater homeowners deserve blame for forcing <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-23
class=yiv484664258mark>banksters</SPAN> to offer millions of
fraudulent high-interest loans were then re-sold to investors
around the world. Democrats think underwater homeowners deserve
empty promises of help that never quite arrives for most of the
foreclosed, the about-to-be foreclosed, their families and
communities. But both agree on free money for <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-24
class=yiv484664258mark>banksters</SPAN> and speculators but no
moratorium on foreclosures and no criminal investigations of
mortgage and securities fraud.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
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face="Arial, sans-serif">10</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Palestinians should be
</B><B>occupied, </B><B>dispossessed and ignored. Iran should be
</B><B>starved and threatened from all sides. Cuba should be
embargoed, and Americans prohibited from going there to see what
its people have done in a half century free of Yankee rule.
</B><B>Black and brown babies and their parents, relatives and
neighbors should be bombed with drones in Pakistan, Yemen,
Somalia and similar places. </B>The politicians and corporate
commentators have a misleading name for this. They call it
“foreign policy.” The realistic term for it is global
empire.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">9</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Africa should be
militarized, destabilized, plundered and where necessary,
invaded by proxy armies like those of Rwanda, Ethiopia, Burundi
or Kenya, or directly by Western air and ground forces, as in
Libya. </B>President Georgia Bush announced the formation of
<SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-25
class=yiv484664258mark>AFRICOM</SPAN>, the US military command
for the continent which has officially swallowed all US civilian
diplomatic presence. But only a black US president, even under
the cover of “humanitarian war” could have invaded an African
nation and openly dispatched special forces to Central
Africa.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">8</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>US Presidents can kidnap
citizens of their own or any nation on earth from anyplace on
the planet for torture, indefinite imprisonment without trial or
murder them and neighboring family and bystanders at will.</B>
To be perfectly fair, there are distinctions between Republicans
and Democrats here that don't amount to differences. Republicans
Cheney and Bush got their lawyers to say these things were OK
and did them. Democrat Obama got Congress to enact “laws” giving
these acts a veneer of fake legality, something a Republican
probably could not have done. </FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">7</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Oil and energy companies,
and other mega-polluters must</B><B> be freed to drill offshore
almost everywhere, and </B><B>permitted </B><B>to poison land
and watersheds with <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-26
class=yiv484664258mark>fracking</SPAN> </B><B>to achieve “energy
independence”</B>. The Republicans say “drill baby drill” but it
seems only Democrats can chill out enough supposed
“environmentalists” to make this happen. Obama campaigned on
restricting offshore drilling four years ago, and reversed
himself just before the <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-27
class=yiv484664258mark>BP</SPAN> oil disaster in the Gulf. The
White House cooperated with <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-28
class=yiv484664258mark>BP</SPAN> in lying to the public about
the extent of the disaster and has shielded BO from paying
anything like the value of actual damages incurred to
livelihoods, human lives and the environment.
</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">6</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>The FCC should not and
must not regulate telecoms to ensure that poor and rural
communities have access to <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-29
class=yiv484664258mark>internet</SPAN>, or to guarantee network
neutrality. </B>Republicans have always been in favor of digital
redlining, against network neutrality. Barack Obama claimed on
the campaign trail he'd take a back seat to nobody in
guaranteeing network neutrality. But he appointed as FCC chair a
man who helped write the infamous Telecommunications Act of
1995, which gave away the government-built <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-30
class=yiv484664258mark>internet</SPAN> backbone to a handful of
immensely powerful telecoms like AT&T and <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-31
class=yiv484664258mark>Comcast</SPAN>, and flatly reversed
himself on network neutrality. The Department of Justice was
forced to stop the <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-32
class=yiv484664258mark>ATT</SPAN>-T-Mobile merger by a storm of
public outrage, but approved the <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-33
class=yiv484664258mark>Comcast</SPAN>-NBC
deal.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">5</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>Of course there really
ARE such things as “clean coal” and “safe nuclear energy”.</B>
Again these are things Republicans have always pretended to
believe. At the 2008 Democratic convention Democrat Barack Obama
joined them, declaring he intended to be the president of “clean
coal and safe nuclear energy.” Obama is building a wave of 33
nuclear plants across the country, the first two in mostly black
and poor communities of Georgia and South Carolina where leaky
existing nukes are causing cancer epidemics. The people know
these things are myths. But Republican and Democratic candidates
for office, all the way down to state and county officials seem
not to.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">4</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>I</B><B><SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-34
class=yiv484664258mark>mmigrants</SPAN> must be jailed and
deported in record numbers. </B>To be really fair, one should
note that on this issue Republicans talk a mean game about
sending them all back and jailing tens or hundreds of thousands
along the way. But only President Obama has walked the walk,
deporting over a million immigrants in his term in office, often
with little or no due process and after housing many for months
in atrocious privatized immigration prisons.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">3</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>No Medicare For All.
Forget about it eliminating the Medicare age requirement so that
all Americans would qualify..</B> Republicans never wanted
Medicare even for seniors, let alone everybody. Six or seven
years ago Illinois State Senator Obama was telling audiences
that if they elected Democrats to Congress, the Senate and the
White House, they'd get single payer health care. But once in
office he excluded Medicare for All from the proposals on the
table, and enacted a national version of Massachusetts <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-35
class=yiv484664258mark>RomneyCare</SPAN>, requiring everybody to
purchase private health insurance or be penalized.
</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">2</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>No minimum wage increases
for you, no right to form a union, no right to negotiate or
strike if you already have a union, and no enforcement or reform
of existing labor laws. </B>Again, Republicans have always
opposed minimum wage laws. Obama promised to boost the minimum
wage his first two years in office, while he still had
majorities in the House and Senate. But he didn't do this, or
pass legislation beefing up the right to organize unions, which
has been eroded under Democrat and Republican administrations
alike.</FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="4%">
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">1</FONT></DIV></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in"
width="96%">
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><B>The 40 year war on drugs
must continue, and even mention of the prison state is
unthinkable. </B>There are 2.3 million people in US prisons and
jails today, a per <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-36
class=yiv484664258mark>capita</SPAN> total that beats the world.
Politicians of both parties wag their fingers in multiple
directions. But as Michelle Alexander points out, if the US
prison population were rolled back to say, only 1 million, the
level it was about 1980, this would mean one million jobs, as
contractors, sheriffs, cops, bailiffs, judges and functionaries
of all kinds would have to go out and find real jobs.
</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">The
rabbit hole goes still deeper. We didn't have to stop at these fifteen
points of Democrat-Republican agreement, but you get the idea. Just as
in Frederick <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-37
class=yiv484664258mark>Douglass's</SPAN> day, the more Democrats and
Republicans agree, the worse it is for the rest of us. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif">There was a time when black America had its
own principles, and formed the immovable leftmost rock of the American
polity. But in the 21st century, that rock has been dissolved by a
tide of corporate money. With the rise of a cohort of black corporate
Democrats and a right wing black Democrat in the White House there is
no longer even any vaguely <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-38
class=yiv484664258mark>leftish</SPAN> influence on Democratic party
politics. The House Progressive Caucus is the biggest in Congress,
with over seventy members, but is powerless and irrelevant. Except for
stylistic flourishes, the music they listen to and the color of some
faces, the differences between Republicans and Democrats seem to exist
mostly in political marketing campaigns and inside our own
heads.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0.08in"><FONT color=#800000><FONT
face="Arial, sans-serif"><FONT size=+0><I>Bruce A. Dixon is managing
editor at Black Agenda Report, and a member of the state committee of
the Georgia Green Party. He can be reached via this site's contact
page, or at <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-39
class=yiv484664258mark>bruce</SPAN>.<SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-40
class=yiv484664258mark>dixon</SPAN>(at)<A
href="http://blackagendareport.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank><SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-41
class=yiv484664258mark>blackagendareport</SPAN>.com</A>.</I></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv484664258gmail_quote>On Sun, <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-42 class=yiv484664258mark>Sep</SPAN> 2, 2012
at 2:43 PM, Germaine Light <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href=""
rel=nofollow>lightport@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"
class=yiv484664258gmail_quote>
<DIV>
<DIV>I admit I have not been to Occupy demos since last October, but
I have been to almost every labor protest & event that I
possibly can & sometimes one has to make choices re limited
time. My heart is there with occupy still and I <SPAN>am
VERY active in this community!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>And of course anyone has the right to protest anything!
But I think I have earned a voice in this
conversation!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Sent from my <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-43
class=yiv484664258mark>iPhone</SPAN>
<DIV>Germaine </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-44
class=yiv484664258mark>Sep</SPAN> 1, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Chris <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-45 class=yiv484664258mark>Goodrow</SPAN>
<<A href="" rel=nofollow>c_goodrow@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>
<DIV>I'm just curious, but the people who are opposed to the focus
of a protest? Are these people who actually participate in these
protests?</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>How many civilians died in drone strikes this year? How many
Americans were targeted as enemy combatants and killed in the past
two years? Chris
<DIV><A href="" rel=nofollow>(217) 898-5039</A>
<DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>On <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-46
class=yiv484664258mark>Sep</SPAN> 1, 2012, at 17:55, "Gregg
Gordon" <<A href="" rel=nofollow>ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV><SPAN>So how many Americans died in Iraq this week?
And how's the missile shield in eastern Europe coming (to
cite just two significant differences with the Bush
Administration)?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>Look
-- I'm not saying give anyone a pass on anything. I'm
saying make your point strategically and intelligently.
It's likely to improve your effectiveness.
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Frankly, I don't think there's
anything a handful of people in C-U are going to do in the next
two months that will make an iota's difference to the outcome of
the election </SPAN><I>or</I> the future of Bradley Manning.
I would guess 95% of the people who drive by any such
demonstration will have no idea who Bradley Manning is, and
there's nothing you can put on a placard that will inform them.
It won't even be covered by the local newspaper. So
in that respect, I don't care, but the larger point is worth
considering. Do we do these things to fulfill a sense of
righteous indignation, or are we trying to have an impact on
future events?</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>
<DIV
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px"
class=yiv484664258hr></DIV><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> C. G. Estabrook
<<A href="" rel=nofollow>cge@shout.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Gregg Gordon <<A
href="" rel=nofollow>ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Jenifer Cartwright
<<A href="" rel=nofollow>jencart13@yahoo.com</A>>; Peace
Discuss <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>; ocCUpy <<A
href="" rel=nofollow>occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>>; Peace
<<A href="" rel=nofollow>peace@anti-war.net</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:23 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace]
[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on
Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6<SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-50 class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN> for
Bradley Manning on eve of <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-51
class=yiv484664258mark>Obama's</SPAN> speech?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>It's important to assess how important the difference it
makes is. The answer seems to be, not much.
<DIV>
<DIV>Obama - although he campaigned against them - followed
Bush's economic and military polices, if in a more brutal and
efficient fashion.
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>That may be some slight reason to vote against him, but
it's certainly not a reason to support him.</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-52
class=yiv484664258mark>Sep</SPAN> 1, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Gregg
Gordon <<A href="" rel=nofollow>ggregg79@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I find it mind-boggling that
anyone who lived through the years 2000-2008 really believes
"it makes no difference."
<DIV><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>
<DIV
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px"
class=yiv484664258hr></DIV><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> C. G. Estabrook
<<A href="" rel=nofollow>cge@shout.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jenifer Cartwright
<<A href="" rel=nofollow>jencart13@yahoo.com</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Peace
Discuss <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>; ocCUpy <<A
href="" rel=nofollow>occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>>;
Peace <<A href="" rel=nofollow>peace@anti-war.net</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:10 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace]
[OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration
on Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6<SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-56 class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN>
for Bradley Manning on eve of <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-57
class=yiv484664258mark>Obama's</SPAN> speech?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>I think it's wrong to give Obama a pass on Bradley
Manning and hold off on condemning his crimes - from the
suppression of <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-58
class=yiv484664258mark>WikiLeaks</SPAN> to the murders of
Americans and others - for ostensible fear of a candidate
(Romney) whose positions on economic and military matters are
inherently identical to those of the
administration. </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>"Voting for reform-minded candidates should take about
five minutes, and then we go back to the important work on the
ground to change the conditions in which the mostly farcical
election process proceeds" [Chomsky]. --CGE</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-60
class=yiv484664258mark>Sep</SPAN> 1, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Jenifer
Cartwright <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>jencart13@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD
style="font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit"
vAlign=top>I'm guessing you guys haven't been
listening to the <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-61
class=yiv484664258mark>Repub</SPAN> Convention
speeches, but Romney <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-62
class=yiv484664258mark>et</SPAN> <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-63
class=yiv484664258mark>al</SPAN> are FAR, FAR,
FAR worse than Obama <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-64
class=yiv484664258mark>et</SPAN> <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-65
class=yiv484664258mark>al</SPAN>... So how 'bout we
save our protests until AFTER the election, and use
our energy defeating the LOTS WORSE evils??? It won't
significantly affect YOUR lives if the <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-66
class=yiv484664258mark>Dems</SPAN> are defeated, but
it will be devastating to MILLIONS across the US and
the world.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 8/31/12, Stuart Levy
<I><<A href=""
rel=nofollow>stuartnlevy@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
Stuart Levy <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>stuartnlevy@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
[Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on
Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6<SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-67
class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN> for Bradley Manning
on eve of <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-68
class=yiv484664258mark>Obama's</SPAN> speech?<BR>To:
"Peace" <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>peace@anti-war.net</A>>, "Peace
Discuss" <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A>>,
"ocCUpy" <<A href=""
rel=nofollow>occupycu@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Date:
Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:26 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV>The wars go on despite the weather and so shall
we (at least we'll try). Expect AWARE and <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-70
class=yiv484664258mark>CUCPJ</SPAN> at the Farmer's
Market tomorrow morning, 8-noon. And, from 2-4, the
AWARE+OccupyCU demonstration will be at its usual
first-Saturday site, Main and
Neil, downtown <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-72
class=yiv484664258mark>Champaign</SPAN>
2-4 PM Saturday, Sept. 1st If it
turns into a real downpour, we'll retire somewhere
nearby for lunch. There's also a
nationally-coordinated suggestion for groups to hold
demonstrations on *Thursday, September 6<SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-73
class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN>*, in support of
Bradley Manning -- "Show Obama that
Bradley Manning is our hero" Why the 6<SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-74
class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN>? That's the
date of <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-75
class=yiv484664258mark>Obama's</SPAN> acceptance
speech at the <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-76
class=yiv484664258mark>DNC</SPAN>. To make a
definite *proposal*, how about:
(proposed) Demonstration in
support of accused <SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-77
class=yiv484664258mark>whistleblower</SPAN> Bradley
Manning 5:00PM Thursday, Sept.
6<SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-78
class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN>
<SPAN id=yiv484664258misspell-79
class=yiv484664258mark>Urbana</SPAN> Veterans'
Memorial (that's
Broadway and Main, or, the NW corner of the block
where the county courthouse is) What do people
think? (Could also make sense to
complain more broadly about <SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-80
class=yiv484664258mark>Obama's</SPAN> unfulfilled
promise as a peace, civil liberties, etc. candidate
from four years ago.) If you like the idea *and*
think you can be there for at least part of 5-6PM,
please write back (either to <A href=""
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@anti-war.net</A> or to
occupyCU or to me, but not to the peace list
please). If we have at least, say, five people who
believe they can do this, then let's go for
it. Meanwhile let's consider Sept. 6<SPAN
id=yiv484664258misspell-82
class=yiv484664258mark>th</SPAN> as still tentative.
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