<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 3, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Stuart Levy <<a href="mailto:stuartnlevy@gmail.com">stuartnlevy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Ya'aqov Ziso wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:E6567527-4DE5-43C1-A43F-B101D6768723@shout.net" type="cite"><font><font><font face="georgia,serif"><i> to perhaps
sway Obama voters -- to whom? to what?</i></font></font></font></blockquote>
As far as *voting* is concerned, I think we'd hope to sway potential
Obama voters to say to him and to the Dem. party, Remember, you need
our support. Listen to us! The fact that your opponents are out of
their minds does not guarantee that you can give up any prospect of
social equity, accept any corporate dictate, promote any war,
without concern for us. Certainly that's what unions should be
saying - they may be greatly reduced but their mobilization can
still be important in close races, and there are lots of those.<br>
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Further -<br>
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Remember what started this thread: a proposal for a demonstration.
The goal of that demonstration was *not* to say, Vote Against Obama
nor Vote for Romney. It was to tell Obama (and everyone) that
Bradley Manning's (accused) whistleblowing and (actual) official
mistreatment are important issues. Better, that whistleblowing to
expose war crimes - undermining the bureaucracy of war - should be
admired, not prosecuted.<br>
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(If we're talking about prosecution, we'd do better to compare the
aggressive prosecution of Manning with the non-prosecution of many
in the US administration, or to take Archbishop Tutu's position,
that those who should be prosecuted now were those at the highest
level who misled their countries into a war that killed, at least
hundreds of thousands of people, displaced millions, and destroyed a
country. Though that would seem to distract from the questions of
Bradley Manning and of Wikileaks. (By coincidence, as I'm typing
this, BBC radio is having a live discussion of the ICC, Archbishop
Tutu's call for prosecutions, and the criminality of the Iraq war.)...<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>