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<blockquote type="cite">You claimed that there are checks on
presidential power, pointing only
to checks by your own subordinates, not by courts, not by Congress, and
not by the public.<br>
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Uh, Jack... did Goldman Sachs send their check this
month?....Good...What about JPMorgan?... Call Jamie and tell him we are
going to cut him if he doesnt play ball...No dont call his fucking
secretary call Jamie Dimon...I dont care where he is tell him to send
in the damn check...Hey good government is all about checks and
balances.  They send the checks, our bank balance goes up.  C'est la
vie.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">We ask you to live up to your own rhetorical
support for the rule of law and due process, and end this Kill List
policy now.</blockquote>
Please, Barry?  Pretty please?  Our knees are getting sore down here.<br>
Aww, we're tired of playing Golden Showers...dont you know any other
games...<br>
ok...we are sorry we asked...Yes we trust you, Barry, of course we do.<br>
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On 9/8/2012 1:44 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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    <div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Subject:
    </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Obama Tells
CNN He Can Kill You</b><br>
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    </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">September 7, 2012
12:41:56 PM CDT<br>
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Obama told CNN this week that he can kill Americans or non-Americans,
the difference being that with Americans their killing amounts to their
Constitutionally guaranteed due process.<br>
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here to email the President to reject this devastating "interpretation"
of the Constitution.</b></a><b><br>
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CNN asked Obama how he chooses names for his kill list, but he declined
to say.  Obama claimed that there are checks on his power, pointing
only to checks by his own subordinates, not by courts, not by Congress,
and not by the public -- which he reassures with vague statements that
amount to "trust me."<br>
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Obama claimed that his preference is to capture people rather than to
kill them.  This does not fit with cases like that of Tariq Khan, a
16-year-old killed by drone strike following his participation in a
conference at which he could have easily been captured.  It does not
fit with the lack of criminal charges against virtually any of the
people killed.<br>
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Obama claimed that he avoids killing civilians, yet careful research
has documented large numbers of civilians killed, including this week
in Yemen.<br>
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Tell President Obama to live up to his own rhetorical support for the
rule of law and due process.</b></a><b><br>
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Tell him that a drone strike or a bullet to the head does not
constitute due process, for Americans or anyone else.</b></a><b><br>
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Due process is not, as comedian Stephen Colbert pointed out, just some
process that you do.<br>
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