<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Hillel & Israel Illini are pro everythi<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>ng Israel/the U.S. governments do in their military affairs.<BR style="RIGHT: auto" class=yui-cursor></SPAN></div>
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<DIV> Some of this inclusiveness stuff does seem a bit wishy-washy at times,<BR>but it does offer opportunity to separate what the government is doing from<BR>what the people see going on. Some in Israel would acknowledge that the<BR>activity of its government makes them less safe, just the same as in the USA<BR>some would point out that what your government is doing is putting you<BR>heavily at risk.<BR><BR><BR>On 11/29/12 3:07, David Green wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN>Didn't Eichmann say at his trial that he attended such an event?<VAR id=yiv163578378yui-ie-cursor></VAR><BR class=yiv163578378yui-cursor></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Carl G. Estabrook <A class=yiv163578378moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">mailto:galliher@illinois.edu</A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> David Green <A class=yiv163578378moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com</A> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> peace-discuss <A class=yiv163578378moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:06 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Peace-discuss] Fw: Vigil for Peace in Israel and Palestine<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>David--<BR><BR>Don't you recall those rallies across Europe in the autumn of 1939, which provided reflective moments to gather together to honor the pain of those who had experienced violence in Germany and Poland, and to express the hope for peace, both in Europe and around the world? <BR><BR>Those events were not about advocating a perspective or goal, but about coming together in a shared hope for better times. All were welcome. Sure.<BR><BR>--CGE<BR><BR><BR>On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:45 AM, David Green <<A href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> I'm forwarding this annoucement from Students for Justice in Palestine to say that I'm completely opposed to supporters of a just peace in the Middle East participating in such events. Quite frankly, I'm shocked by it. I
would never consent to stand with those who "stand for Israel" under any circumstances, except when the deal is done. I've found the notion of "interfaith dialogue" etc. to be not only a waste of time, but horrible strategy. It sanitizes what's going on. It avoids the issue. As far as I'm concerned, this event can be seen as a Zionist tactic, and co-optation of those who support Palestinian rights.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> DG<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:33 AM<BR>> Subject: Vigil for Peace in Israel and Palestine<BR>> <BR>> Candlelight Vigil for Peace in Israel and Palestine<BR>> <BR>> Wednesday, November 28th at 8pm<BR>> <BR>> Alma Mater Plaza, Green and Wright St.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> A reflective moment to gather together to honor the pain of those who have experienced violence in Israel and Palestine, and
to express our hope for peace, both in the Middle East and locally. This event is not about advocating a perspective or goal, but to come together in a shared hope for better times. All are welcome.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Co-sponsored by Diversity & Social Justice Education, Cohen Center/Hillel, Interfaith in Action, Israel Illini, Students for Justice in Palestine, and University YMCA. Join the event on Facebook.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> Students for Justice in Palestine<BR>> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Peace-discuss mailing list<BR>> <A href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank
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