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It seems that Haiti's problem stem in large measure from<br>
too much government, too much tyranny, not too much anarchy.<br>
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The people who live in Norway are a fairly durable sort.<br>
I am not sure how well they would do in Haiti, though. <br>
Norwegian immigrants tended to settle in the northern climes that<br>
seem to suit them.<br>
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On 12/01/12 22:41, David Johnson wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="4"><strong>In regards to the " net "
Wayne,</strong></font></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">lets not compare apples to
onions.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">Like any tool or vehicle,
government can be helpful or harmful.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">When government attempts to
infringe upon citizens right to ; speak, write, assemble, associate,
travel, form Unions, be arrested without evidence or warrant, have an
attorney, and general Magna Carta, Bill ot Rights, and Habeous Corpus
rights, etc..</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">Also in general making gun
ownership, abortion rights, drug possesion. prostitution, gambling, (
ie. victimless acts ) illegal and in general NOT representing the will
of the people then YES, government IS the " net " being cast over them.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">That would be the " onion ".</font></strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">When government represents
the will of the people and promotes the general common good like
providing ; fire protection, road and bridge repair, disaster relief,
pollution control, work place ( wage, hour, conditions, and safety
) laws, prohibitions against slavery and child labor and yes,</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">provides economic safeguards
like public healthcare coverage for ALL, social security retirement /
disability, free public education including K-12, community college and
Universities, for those who want it,</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">then that would be the "
apple " and the " net " that protects and promotes the commons.</font></strong></div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">Do we want to live in a
country like Norway or do we want to live in a country like Haiti ?</font></strong></div>
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<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">David Johnson</font></strong></div>
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The positioning of the net. <br>
Some feel the net is underneath them to catch them in case of trouble.<br>
<br>
Others feel the net has caught them already and has been cast over them<br>
to keep them from causing any trouble.<br>
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