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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=dlj725@hughes.net href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ewj@pigsqq.org
href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:46 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Obama: $400 Billion in Safety Net
Cuts</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"It seems that Haiti's problem stem in large measure from<BR>too much
government, too much tyranny, not too much anarchy."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Haiti's problem is that their government
is</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>All " ONION ". Oppresion of the people for the
benefit of the wealthy via their low-wage sweat shops.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>The largest political party in Haiti is BANNED,
the police and military are brutal in their repression of the
people.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Simaltaneously there is no " APPLE
".</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Lttle or no ; free public education, health
care, pollution control, health and food safety standards, adequate bridges and
roads, no workplace ( wage, hour, conditon, safety )
laws. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Rampent child labor, no social security, high
infant mortality, high rates of illiteracy, low life expectancy, high rates of
infection and disease, high crime rate,.....</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>In essence, a " free market paradise " , for
the wealthy that is.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>And there is no need for this since Haiti is
a country rich in natural resources and if the people could shake off their
oppressors, Haiti would be a beautiful tourist
destination.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Norway and the other hand has excellent civil
liberty protections and simaltaneously the government plays a
signicant role in the economy with many Labor and enviromental
laws.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>They have free health care for all, social
security pensions that pay retirees close to the same amount of money that
they earned when they worked, free education from daycare to University
PHD, 6- month 100 % paid maternity leave for the mother AND the father, 5-6
week annual vacations, almost non-existent crime rates, some of the highest
literacy rates in the world, high life expectancy,....etc.,
etc..</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>No Norwegian nor most Western / Northern Europeans
want to emmigrate / live in the U.S. for decades, unless they are
wealthy.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>As my German wife's friends and relatives have
said to her, that they enjoy visiting the U.S. on vacation, but can't understand
how my wife can tolerate living here.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>They see the U.S, as an interesting country but at
the same time a very ignorant and brutal country.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ewj@pigsqq.org href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">"E. Wayne Johnson
朱稳森"</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dlj725@hughes.net
href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:12
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Obama:
$400 Billion in Safety Net Cuts</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>It seems that Haiti's problem stem in large measure from<BR>too
much government, too much tyranny, not too much anarchy.<BR><BR>The people who
live in Norway are a fairly durable sort.<BR>I am not sure how well they would
do in Haiti, though. <BR>Norwegian immigrants tended to settle in the
northern climes that<BR>seem to suit them.<BR><BR><BR>On 12/01/12 22:41, David
Johnson wrote:
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial><STRONG>In regards to the " net "
Wayne,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>lets not compare apples to
onions.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Like any tool or vehicle, government
can be helpful or harmful.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>When government attempts to infringe
upon citizens right to ; speak, write, assemble, associate, travel,
form Unions, be arrested without evidence or warrant, have an attorney, and
general Magna Carta, Bill ot Rights, and Habeous Corpus rights,
etc..</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Also in general making gun ownership,
abortion rights, drug possesion. prostitution, gambling, ( ie. victimless
acts ) illegal and in general NOT representing the will of the people then
YES, government IS the " net " being cast over them.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>That would be the " onion
".</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>When government represents the will of
the people and promotes the general common good like providing ; fire
protection, road and bridge repair, disaster relief, pollution control, work
place ( wage, hour, conditions, and safety ) laws,
prohibitions against slavery and child labor and yes,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>provides economic safeguards like
public healthcare coverage for ALL, social security retirement / disability,
free public education including K-12, community college and
Universities, for those who want it,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>then that would be the " apple "
and the " net " that protects and promotes the
commons.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Do we want to live in a
country like Norway or do we want to live in a country like Haiti
?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>David Johnson</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
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<A title=dlj725@hughes.net href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">David Johnson</A> </DIV>
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<A title=peace-discuss@anti-war.net
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Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:10 AM</DIV>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Obama: $400 Billion in Safety Net Cuts</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The positioning of the net. <BR>Some feel the net is
underneath them to catch them in case of trouble.<BR><BR>Others feel the
net has caught them already and has been cast over them<BR>to keep them
from causing any trouble.<BR><BR><BR>On 12/01/12 2:29, David Johnson
wrote:
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 30, 2012 11:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Obama: $400 Billion in Safety Net Cuts</DIV></DIV>
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