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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=dlj725@microsoft.com href="mailto:dlj725@microsoft.com">David Johnson</A>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ewj@pigsqq.org
href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 07, 2013 5:11 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] (no subject)</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Wayne,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>the problem is private sector health care
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>China use to have free health care for it's
people, has that changed ?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Were you charged that amount because you are a
foreigner ?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>If not, </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>then $ 250 may seem reasonable to you, but if you
are a Chinesse worker making forty cents an hour ( average chinesse
Manafacturing wage ), that would be equivalent to $ 15,000 in the U.S. based on
a wage of </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>$ 22.00 per hour which is the U.S.
average wage.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>You may be correct about not enough doctors in the
U.S., but that very well could be because of another " market sollution "
failure, that being the outrageous cost of higher education in the
U.S..</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ewj@pigsqq.org href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">"E. Wayne Johnson
朱稳森"</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dlj725@hughes.net
href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> ; <A
title=peace-discuss@anti-war.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@anti-war.net">Peace-discuss</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] (no
subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I had a significant health issue that needed some attention
recently and I <BR>went to the local hospital emergency room with my problem
and I spent<BR>two days at that hospital as an outpatient. <BR>The
hospital is a bit less than 3 miles<BR>from where we live. I seldom go
to the doctor unless i am sick. I<BR>do have a checkup about every year
though.<BR><BR>All patients with new problems are processed by a doctor in the
emergency<BR>room who evaluates your problem and routes you to a lab for some
initial testing<BR>and to a specialist clinic or two on the upper
floors. Mind you this is a<BR>major hospital in one of the largest
cities in the world, and it was full <BR>of people. I never had to wait
more than 10 minutes to see a doctor<BR>or to get processed for various
ultrasound, blood work, etc.<BR><BR>There were no forms to fill out at any
time. (Have you every had the <BR>measles? If so how many?...
)<BR><BR>All of the lab work was coordinated to the doctors ordering it via
his computer terminal.<BR>He typed in orders and printed them out and sent me
to where i needed to <BR>go get tests or whatever. They put the results
of the test and the blood<BR>work everything in my hand after the tests were
run. Everything in Chinese<BR>but no problem i could read the
biochemical and hematologic profile and saw<BR>what was up.<BR><BR>I had to go
get my own iv stuff from the pharmacy and a bottle of saline and <BR>an iv
set. They make the patients carry their own stuff and it cuts the
<BR>cost and reduces people traffic.<BR><BR>At the end of the first day they
gave me an iv and sent me home. <BR>The second day they ran more tests
and <BR>prescribed me some pills. I was already much better by the 2nd
day.<BR><BR>I got better very quickly and am recovered. <BR><BR>I had to stand
in line for about 20 minutes to pay my bill.<BR>The total bill came to about
$250 USD including all of the examinations,<BR>all of the meds, the iv, the
needles they used, everything itemized.<BR>One major expense was for a drug
made by Pfizer. It cost USD$10 for a <BR>two week supply.<BR><BR>The USA
does not make enough doctors to service the population and therein lies one of
the <BR>major problems. The other problem is that americans are grossly
overcharged for medicines.<BR><BR>I didnt have to make an appointment with a
doctor and wait days to be seen.<BR>I saw two specialists the same day I
arrived at the hospital.<BR>I didnt have to fill out any endless forms about
intricate details of my medical history.<BR>The doctor looked at me and looked
at my chart and asked me a few well-directed questions.<BR>I did not have to
deal with any snotty (snooty) medical secretaries. Not one.<BR>It did take me
most of 2 days spent at the hospital but I am ok now.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On
01/07/13 23:24, David Johnson wrote:
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Unfortuantely Wayne many people are not aware
of the difference between the original grassroots teaparty movement and
the later astro-turf phoney teaparty front groups from the likes of the Koch
Bros..</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I disagree with Ron Paul's economic policies
that would continue to allow people to unnecessarily die every year from
from the pay or die private health insurance industry and big pharma as well
as privatatizing social security.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I do agree with Ron Paul's policies of wanting
to eliminate the federal reserve and corporate trade treaties like NAFTA and
especially his views on foriegn policy and civil liberties, and Ron Paul in
general has proved to be a man of principle and integrity, but I have
NEVER had any use for his son Rand Paul.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">Peace-discuss</A> ; <A
title=sf-core@yahoogroups.com href="mailto:sf-core@yahoogroups.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">sf-core</A> </DIV>
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Re: [Peace-discuss] (no subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>This is a fairly mean-spirited bit of writing with a bit
<BR>too much uncontrolled mockery, but it is not far from <BR>the truth in
many points. <BR><BR>I am not sure that Rand Who? is a "Christian
Zionist", <BR>but he definitely has shown some neoconnish
attitudes.<BR><BR>I don't like Rand Paul. <BR><BR>I don't like him
at all. He has sought money from neocon people that<BR>I would not
want to associate with and praised some people I despise,<BR>like Romney,
for instance.<BR><BR>But am a huge fan of his principled old man.<BR><BR>A
lot of those who supported Ron Paul don't much care for his
son.<BR><BR>Ron Paul was an ob/gyn. <BR><BR>Rand Paul is an eye
doctor.<BR>He seems to be in need of some help with his own eyes.<BR>He's
no doubt beyond the help of Jackson Browne or Harry.<BR><BR>*<BR><BR>I am
not so sure that the progressives ought to be so strongly<BR>railing
against the Tea Party. That middle-class tax increase<BR>is going to
come right out of everybody's ass pocket, and<BR>most working people dont
have an extra thousand or two they would<BR>like to send to Uncle
Sam.<BR><BR>I aint so sure this big government thing is everything its
whacked up to be.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 01/07/13 20:38, David Johnson wrote:
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">by Richard
Mellor<BR><BR>I see the Christian Zionist and Tea
Bagger NeoCon Rand Paul is in Israel affirming his support for
the land where Jesus will return.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Paul, like his father
is a doctor (I wonder if he receives Medicare money) and will no doubt
by-pass Gaza.<SPAN> </SPAN>No one wants to have to look at victims
living in concentration camps for fear of having to do something about
it. Paul supports the right to life but not for Palestinian children.
Paul’s trip is funded by the American Family Association, and organized
by <I>“evangelical kingmaker David Lane and former pharmaceuticals
executive Richard Roberts, a prominent member of the Orthodox Jewish
community who donates heavily to the GOP”</I> according to Business
Insider. Politics makes strange bedfellows as the saying goes. I don’t
suppose Paul will remind the Jews there that they will burn in hell if
they don’t convert to his religion when Jesus gets back. I suppose the
evangelical organizations that make this happen are tax-exempt not being
political. This is a religious pilgrimage no doubt.<BR><BR>Paul is
looking at a presidential run next election as a Republican and is
looking for support; after all, Obama raised $1
billion.<SPAN> </SPAN>For that he needs to schmooze with
American Zionists and the powerful pro Israel lobby, AIPAC (American
Israel Public Affairs Committee.) </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">He will be meeting
this week with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President
Shimon Peres, as well as other influential people favored by Washington
and the Pentagon, president of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas
and former king of Saudi Arabia Abdulluh, one of the family of
theocratic thugs that runs the country. Abdullah is one of the world’s
wealthiest individuals at about $21 billion according to
Forbes.<SPAN> </SPAN>He is also considered one of the world’s
worst dictators but that’s never stopped US presidents and politicians
before. After 911 Saudi royals got a cheap flight out of the
US.<SPAN> </SPAN>Gays, women and other religions are not the
favorite of these thugs and Unions are a definite no-no. The whole
group, Rand included, is like the employment line for the job with
Hedley Lamarr in Blazing saddles, barring the two at the end of the line
that is.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Rand, like Obama and
Madonna before him won’t be chatting with Hamas, the freely elected
government of the concentration camp we know as Gaza.<SPAN>
</SPAN>Hamas are <I>“terrorists”</I> says Washington and too cruel to
talk to.<SPAN> </SPAN><BR><BR>How could he meet with Hamas? Paul
is a doctor and values human life which is why he opposes abortion and
supports a Human Life Amendment that would overturn Roe V
Wade.<SPAN> </SPAN>It shouldn't surprise anyone, defending Herman
Cain during his scandal he complained that, <I>"</I></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><I>these days it seems like women can’t take a
joke."</I> If he’s like his Libertarian daddy he would also support
workers organizing but not forcing employers to increase wages through
withholding our Labor power, that’s terrorism too isn’t it?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Paul wants small
government and opposes government involvement in health care. Health
care is best served by market forces like most of society’s needs. He
likes medicine being a business as he is in the medical business
himself. Paul also supports the misnamed Right to Work legislation that
is aimed at keeping workers from organizing for better wages and
conditions.<SPAN> </SPAN>He should get along well with King
Abdullah.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">By my estimation,
some 140 million Americans opted out of the electoral process last
election.<SPAN> </SPAN>I wonder why.</SPAN></DIV></FONT></DIV><PRE wrap=""><FIELDSET class=mimeAttachmentHeader></FIELDSET>
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