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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I disagree with Ron Paul's economic policies that
would continue to allow people to unnecessarily die every year from from the pay
or die private health insurance industry and big pharma as well as privatatizing
social security.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Here in lies the problem Carl for a tea-party REAL
Left alliance.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=galliher@illinois.edu href="mailto:galliher@illinois.edu">Carl G.
Estabrook</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ewj@pigsqq.org
href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss</A> ; <A
title=sf-core@yahoogroups.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 07, 2013 10:59
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] (no
subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The Tea Party has always been two things:
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<DIV>(1) an astro-turf campaign cynically funded by neoliberal CEOs to destroy
the vestiges of the welfare state; and </DIV>
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<DIV>(2) a popular movement of those with real economic grievances against the
21st century US economy. </DIV>
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<DIV>Its existence testifies to the craven failure of left-liberals to
organize the second group and press for a free cooperative economy:</DIV>
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<DIV>see Chris Hedges "The Death of the Liberal Class."</DIV>
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<DIV>Good liberals are instead celebrating the filthy military and economic
policies of the current administration.</DIV>
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<DIV>They are the real ideological enemy, not the Tea Party, because they are
the real and effective minions of the 1%.</DIV>
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<DIV>--CGE </DIV>
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<DIV>On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:13 AM, E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森 <<A
href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</A>> wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">This is a fairly mean-spirited bit of
writing with a bit <BR>too much uncontrolled mockery, but it is not far from
<BR>the truth in many points. <BR><BR>I am not sure that Rand Who? is
a "Christian Zionist", <BR>but he definitely has shown some neoconnish
attitudes.<BR><BR>I don't like Rand Paul. <BR><BR>I don't like him at
all. He has sought money from neocon people that<BR>I would not want
to associate with and praised some people I despise,<BR>like Romney, for
instance.<BR><BR>But am a huge fan of his principled old man.<BR><BR>A lot
of those who supported Ron Paul don't much care for his son.<BR><BR>Ron Paul
was an ob/gyn. <BR><BR>Rand Paul is an eye doctor.<BR>He seems to be
in need of some help with his own eyes.<BR>He's no doubt beyond the help of
Jackson Browne or Harry.<BR><BR>*<BR><BR>I am not so sure that the
progressives ought to be so strongly<BR>railing against the Tea Party.
That middle-class tax increase<BR>is going to come right out of everybody's
ass pocket, and<BR>most working people dont have an extra thousand or two
they would<BR>like to send to Uncle Sam.<BR><BR>I aint so sure this big
government thing is everything its whacked up to be.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On
01/07/13 20:38, David Johnson wrote:
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">by Richard
Mellor<BR><BR>I see the Christian Zionist and Tea
Bagger NeoCon Rand Paul is in Israel affirming his support for
the land where Jesus will return.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Paul, like his father
is a doctor (I wonder if he receives Medicare money) and will no doubt
by-pass Gaza.<SPAN> </SPAN>No one wants to have to look at victims
living in concentration camps for fear of having to do something about it.
Paul supports the right to life but not for Palestinian children. Paul’s
trip is funded by the American Family Association, and organized by
<I>“evangelical kingmaker David Lane and former pharmaceuticals executive
Richard Roberts, a prominent member of the Orthodox Jewish community who
donates heavily to the GOP”</I> according to Business Insider. Politics
makes strange bedfellows as the saying goes. I don’t suppose Paul will
remind the Jews there that they will burn in hell if they don’t convert to
his religion when Jesus gets back. I suppose the evangelical organizations
that make this happen are tax-exempt not being political. This is a
religious pilgrimage no doubt.<BR><BR>Paul is looking at a presidential
run next election as a Republican and is looking for support; after all,
Obama raised $1 billion.<SPAN> </SPAN>For that he needs to
schmooze with American Zionists and the powerful pro Israel lobby, AIPAC
(American Israel Public Affairs Committee.) </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">He will be meeting this
week with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Shimon
Peres, as well as other influential people favored by Washington and the
Pentagon, president of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas and former
king of Saudi Arabia Abdulluh, one of the family of theocratic thugs that
runs the country. Abdullah is one of the world’s wealthiest individuals at
about $21 billion according to Forbes.<SPAN> </SPAN>He is also
considered one of the world’s worst dictators but that’s never stopped US
presidents and politicians before. After 911 Saudi royals got a cheap
flight out of the US.<SPAN> </SPAN>Gays, women and other religions
are not the favorite of these thugs and Unions are a definite no-no. The
whole group, Rand included, is like the employment line for the job with
Hedley Lamarr in Blazing saddles, barring the two at the end of the line
that is.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Rand, like Obama and
Madonna before him won’t be chatting with Hamas, the freely elected
government of the concentration camp we know as Gaza.<SPAN>
</SPAN>Hamas are <I>“terrorists”</I> says Washington and too cruel to talk
to.<SPAN> </SPAN><BR><BR>How could he meet with Hamas? Paul is a
doctor and values human life which is why he opposes abortion and supports
a Human Life Amendment that would overturn Roe V Wade.<SPAN>
</SPAN>It shouldn't surprise anyone, defending Herman Cain during his
scandal he complained that, <I>"</I></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><I>these days it seems like women can’t take a
joke."</I> If he’s like his Libertarian daddy he would also support
workers organizing but not forcing employers to increase wages through
withholding our Labor power, that’s terrorism too isn’t it?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Paul wants small
government and opposes government involvement in health care. Health care
is best served by market forces like most of society’s needs. He likes
medicine being a business as he is in the medical business himself. Paul
also supports the misnamed Right to Work legislation that is aimed at
keeping workers from organizing for better wages and
conditions.<SPAN> </SPAN>He should get along well with King
Abdullah.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">By my estimation, some
140 million Americans opted out of the electoral process last
election.<SPAN> </SPAN>I wonder why.</SPAN></DIV></FONT></DIV><PRE wrap=""><FIELDSET class=mimeAttachmentHeader></FIELDSET>
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