<div>Don't ever call me out in the subject line of another message - it is damned rude!</div><div> </div><div>You libeled the former President and his foundation. You have been called out to present the evidence, not your speculation or something from a conspiracist website, but actual evidence that you personally can attest to since hearsay is not permitted to be introduced in a court of law. So, put up or shut up.</div>
<div> </div><div>Roger W Helbig</div><div> </div><div>Smedley Butler's piece has nothing to do with this - it certainly has no bearing on your libel of current matters - it might have some bearing on the period of time between WW-I and II. Your throwing it out shows that you really have no actual facts to present and are just throwing up the usual stuff that may make a good protest sign!<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:33 AM, David Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net" target="_blank">dlj725@hughes.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
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<p align="left"><font>Mr. Helbig,</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>I do NOT libel or slander !</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>I always speak and write the TRUTH to the best of my
ability via trying to confirm the validity and past track record of sources for
my information.</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>Below is a TON of info about Bill Clinton and the
Haiti FEMA trailers from a variety of GOOD RELIABLE sources.</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>BTW. You should read former Marine Corp General
Smedley Butler's Book " War is a Racket " as well as former Green Beret Donald
Duncan's book " The New Legions ".</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>Also I would highly recommend Howard Zinn's classic
book " A People's History of the United States ".</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>If you read these books, it would more than likely
help your analysis ability in being able to determine the truth from
bullshit.</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>Also, for daily news sources you should check-out "
Democracy Now " television program as well as LINK T.V. and FREE SPEECH T.V.
available on either DISH or DIRECT Sattelite T.V..</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>Sincerely</font></p>
<p align="left"><font>David Johnson </font> </p>
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<p align="left"><strong>Clinton (Bill) Foundation</strong></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">I posted summary of this situation at the first links
shown.</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://haitirewired.wired.com/group/newsonhaiti/forum/topics/clinton-foundation-scandal" target="_blank">http://haitirewired.wired.com/group/newsonhaiti/forum/topics/clinton-foundation-scandal</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/notes/alister-wm-macintyre/clinton-foundation-scandal-part-isummary-" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/notes/alister-wm-macintyre/clinton-foundation-scandal-part-isummary-</a></p>
<p align="left">from-breaking-news/10150250639564267</p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Saying that these “trailers” are hurricane shelters, is some kind
of oxymoron or evidence</p>
<p align="left">of promoters not knowing what they are saying or doing, given that
in the USA, people</p>
<p align="left">are told to evacuate trailers when bad weather approaches.</p>
<p align="left">Here’s USA and Canadian news media with sordid
details.</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/161908/shelters-clinton-built" target="_blank">http://www.thenation.com/article/161908/shelters-clinton-built</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.thenation.com/slideshow/161887/slide-show-inside-clinton-foundationsshoddily-" target="_blank">http://www.thenation.com/slideshow/161887/slide-show-inside-clinton-foundationsshoddily-</a></p>
<p align="left">built-searingly-hot-and-toxic-haitihttp://</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://canadiancentreinvestigates.org/haiti-shelters/" target="_blank">canadiancentreinvestigates.org/haiti-shelters/</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/investigations/international/1524/the_shelters_that_c" target="_blank">http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/investigations/international/1524/the_shelters_that_c</a></p>
<p align="left">linton_built/</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/shelters-clinton-built-152744334.html" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/shelters-clinton-built-152744334.html</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2011/7/12/clinton_foundation_accused_of_sending_h" target="_blank">http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2011/7/12/clinton_foundation_accused_of_sending_h</a></p>
<p align="left">aiti</p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Here is HAITI news media on the topic.</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.haitian-truth.org/another-crime-against-humanity-the-shelters-clinton-built/" target="_blank">http://www.haitian-truth.org/another-crime-against-humanity-the-shelters-clinton-built/</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.haitian-truth.org/push-to-send-fema-trailers-to-haiti-stirs-backlash-industrypush-" target="_blank">http://www.haitian-truth.org/push-to-send-fema-trailers-to-haiti-stirs-backlash-industrypush-</a></p>
<p align="left">to-send-leftover-fema-trailers-to-haiti-stirs-backlash-called-self-serving/</p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">I think these are HAITI blogs:</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://brikourinouvelgaye.com/2011/07/11/the-shelters-that-clinton-built/" target="_blank">http://brikourinouvelgaye.com/2011/07/11/the-shelters-that-clinton-built/</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Here are blogs, most just copying the news
stories.</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://welcome-to-pottersville2.blogspot.com/2011/07/g-s-spends-bankster-winnings-onour" target="_blank">http://welcome-to-pottersville2.blogspot.com/2011/07/g-s-spends-bankster-winnings-onour</a>.</p>
<p align="left">html</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://drupal.canadahaitiaction.ca/content/shelters-clinton-built" target="_blank">http://drupal.canadahaitiaction.ca/content/shelters-clinton-built</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/11-12" target="_blank">http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/11-12</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/962#July12t4" target="_blank">http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/962#July12t4</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://mangodhaiti.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://mangodhaiti.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://variation-urge.blogspot.com/2011/07/shelters-that-clinton-built-nation.html" target="_blank">http://variation-urge.blogspot.com/2011/07/shelters-that-clinton-built-nation.html</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.leftwingpost.com/the-shelters-that-clinton-built" target="_blank">http://www.leftwingpost.com/the-shelters-that-clinton-built</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.jusrhyme.com/2011/07/12/clinton-foundation-accused-of-sending-haitishoddy-" target="_blank">http://www.jusrhyme.com/2011/07/12/clinton-foundation-accused-of-sending-haitishoddy-</a></p>
<p align="left">trailers-found-toxic-after-katrina/</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.mynucleus.org/story/2011/07/12/_2011_7_12_clinton_foundation_accus" target="_blank">http://www.mynucleus.org/story/2011/07/12/_2011_7_12_clinton_foundation_accus</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://americanprogressivenews.com/2011/07/why-did-the-clinton-foundation-funddangerous-" target="_blank">http://americanprogressivenews.com/2011/07/why-did-the-clinton-foundation-funddangerous-</a></p>
<p align="left">unhealthy-trailers-in-haiti/</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://americanprogressivenews.com/2011/07/the-shelters-that-clinton-built/" target="_blank">http://americanprogressivenews.com/2011/07/the-shelters-that-clinton-built/</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Tweets – give the effort an “F” due to the
Formaldehyde</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://naturaldisaster.tweetmeme.com/story/5721313855/the-shelters-that-clinton-builtthe-" target="_blank">http://naturaldisaster.tweetmeme.com/story/5721313855/the-shelters-that-clinton-builtthe-</a></p>
<p align="left">nation</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://topsy.com/www.thenation.com/article/161908/shelters-clinton-built" target="_blank">http://topsy.com/www.thenation.com/article/161908/shelters-clinton-built</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Similar info in forums</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.thebellforum.com/showthread.php?t=53905" target="_blank">http://www.thebellforum.com/showthread.php?t=53905</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439" target="_blank">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439</a></p>
<p align="left">x1469193</p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24912" target="_blank">http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24912</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Video Shows:</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6VjgC3uDg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6VjgC3uDg</a></p>
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.thenation.com/signup/161887?destination=slideshow/161887/slide-showinside-" target="_blank">http://www.thenation.com/signup/161887?destination=slideshow/161887/slide-showinside-</a></p>
<p align="left">clinton-foundations-shoddily-built-searingly-hot-and-toxic-haiti-</p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Since so many do a good job of linking to the original, we can
search for Link: original</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Link%3A+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2F" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=Link%3A+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2F</a></p>
<p align="left">article%2F161908%2Fshelters-clinton-built&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-</p>
<p align="left">8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a</p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">The project was announced by Clinton as his foundation's first
contribution to the Interim</p>
<p align="left">Haiti Recovery Commission, which the former president co-chairs.
The foundation</p>
<p align="left">described the project as "hurricane-proof...emergency shelters
that can also serve as</p>
<p align="left">schools...to ensure the safety of vulnerable populations in high
risk areas during the</p>
<p align="left">hurricane season," while also providing Haitian schoolchildren "a
decent place to learn"</p>
<p align="left">and creating local jobs. The facilities, according to the
foundation, would be equipped</p>
<p align="left">with power generators, restrooms, water and sanitary storage. They
became one of the</p>
<p align="left">IHRC's first projects.</p>
<p align="left">Here's what was promised thru the IHRC project.</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/files/managed/IHRC%20proposal-haiti.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/files/managed/IHRC%20proposal-haiti.pdf</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">The facilities, according to the foundation, would be equipped
with power generators,</p>
<p align="left">restrooms, water and sanitary storage. So far they do not have so
much as a single latrine</p>
<p align="left">supplied.</p>
<p align="left">Some projects are more interested in profits for corporate
participants, than in value for</p>
<p align="left">money invested. It is sometimes called “exploitation via disaster
capitalism.”</p>
<p align="left">One million dollars for 20 double-wides, with no
A/C...toilets...water?</p>
<p align="left">Remember formaldehyde in Katrina trailers via FEMA? The same
company has been</p>
<p align="left">paid by the Clinton Foundation to build the same kind of
technology for Haiti school</p>
<p align="left">children, and to be hurricane shelters.</p>
<p align="left">The trailers have been tested. The same deadly levels of
formaldehyde found there.</p>
<p align="left">Here are the lab results:</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/files/managed/Haiti%20lab%20results.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/files/managed/Haiti%20lab%20results.pdf</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">Children symptoms can be explained by the high levels of
formaldehyde.</p>
<p align="left">Apparently many USA homes have safe levels of the stuff, so it is
important to identify</p>
<p align="left">levels found in Haiti vs. know what levels are
safe.</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/ehhe/trailerstudy/compendium.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/ehhe/trailerstudy/compendium.htm</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">What does it say about the reconstruction efforts in Haiti if the
very first project approved</p>
<p align="left">by the commission that is supposed to ensure accountability and
transparency in Haiti’s</p>
<p align="left">rebuilding passes this kind of project and Bill Clinton himself
has his hands all over it?,”</p>
<p align="left">says Macdonald. “He is the co-chair of this commission that is
supposed to ensure Haiti</p>
<p align="left">is built back better.”</p>
<p align="left">Greg Higgins wrote on Haiti Rewired</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://haitirewired.wired.com/group/architectureforhaiti?commentId=4920407%3ACom" target="_blank">http://haitirewired.wired.com/group/architectureforhaiti?commentId=4920407%3ACom</a></p>
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<p align="left">The Clayton Homes + Clinton scandal was predictable. If former
President Clinton had</p>
<p align="left">surrounded himself with a dozen of the best architects and
engineers money could buy (as</p>
<p align="left">in experienced and independent), this would likely not have
happened. Shipping "offthe-</p>
<p align="left">shelf" prefab schools to Haiti, as it appears they were, has to
rank as one of the</p>
<p align="left">dumbest moves yet. FYI: here's a Clayton Homes press release from
last year about</p>
<p align="left">these school buildings:</p></font><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman"><font color="#0000ff" face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left"><a href="http://www.claytonhomes.com/cla" target="_blank">http://www.claytonhomes.com/cla</a></p></font></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">When </p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">Nation
</font></i></font><font face="TimesNewRoman">reporters visited the "hurricane-proof"
shelters in June, six to eight months
<p align="left">after they'd been installed, we found them to consist of twenty
imported prefab trailers</p>
<p align="left">beset by a host of problems, from mold to sweltering heat to
shoddy construction. Most</p>
<p align="left">disturbing, they were manufactured by the same company, Clayton
Homes, which is</p>
<p align="left">being sued in the United States for providing the Federal
Emergency Management</p>
<p align="left">Agency (FEMA) with formaldehyde-laced trailers in the wake of
Hurricane Katrina. Air</p>
<p align="left">samples collected from twelve Haiti trailers detected worrying
levels of this carcinogen in</p>
<p align="left">one, according to laboratory results obtained as part of a joint
investigation by </p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">The
Nation</font></i><font face="TimesNewRoman">
<p align="left">and The Nation Institute's Investigative Fund.</p>
<p align="left">By mid-June, two of the four schools where the Clinton Foundation
classrooms were</p>
<p align="left">installed had prematurely ended classes for the summer because the
temperature in the</p>
<p align="left">trailers frequently exceeded 100 degrees, and one had yet to open
for lack of water and</p>
<p align="left">sanitation facilities.</p>
<p align="left">As Judith Seide, a student in Lubert's sixth-grade class,
explained to </p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">The
Nation</font></i><font face="TimesNewRoman">, she and
<p align="left">her classmates regularly suffer from painful headaches in their
new Clinton Foundation</p>
<p align="left">classroom. Every day, she said, her "head hurts and I feel it
spinning and have to stop</p>
<p align="left">moving, otherwise I'd fall." Her vision goes dark, as is the case
with her classmate Judel,</p>
<p align="left">who sometimes can't open his eyes because, said Seide, "he's
allergic to the heat." Their</p>
<p align="left">teacher regularly relocates the class outside into the shade of
the trailer because the</p>
<p align="left">swelter inside is insufferable.</p>
<p align="left">But headaches were not the only health problems students, staff
and parents at the Institut</p>
<p align="left">Haitiano-Caribbean (INHAC) told us they've suffered from since the
inauguration of the</p>
<p align="left">classrooms. Innocent Sylvain, a shy janitor who looks much older
than his 41 years,</p>
<p align="left">spends more time than anyone in the new trailer classrooms, with
the inglorious task of</p>
<p align="left">mopping up the water that leaks through the doors and windows each
time it rains. He</p>
<p align="left">has felt a burning sensation in his eyes ever since he began
working long hours in the</p>
<p align="left">trailers. One of his eyes is completely bloodshot, and he said,
"They itch and burn." He'd</p>
<p align="left">previously been sensitive to eye irritation, but he says he's had
worse "problems since the</p>
<p align="left">month of January"—when the schoolrooms opened their doors.</p>
<p align="left">Any number of factors might be contributing to the headaches and
eye irritation reported</p>
<p align="left">by INHAC staff and students. However, similar symptoms were
experienced by those</p>
<p align="left">living in the FEMA trailers that were found by the Centers for
Disease Control and</p>
<p align="left">Prevention to have unsafe levels of formaldehyde. Lab tests
conducted as part of our</p>
<p align="left">investigation in Haiti discovered levels of the carcinogen in the
sixth-grade Clinton</p>
<p align="left">Foundation classroom in Léogâne at 250 parts per billion—two and a
half times the level</p>
<p align="left">at which the CDC warned FEMA trailer residents that sensitive
people, such as children,</p>
<p align="left">could face adverse health effects. Assay Technologies, the
accredited lab that analyzed</p>
<p align="left">the air tests, identifies 100 parts per billion and more as the
level at which "65–80 percent</p>
<p align="left">of the population will most likely exhibit some adverse health
symptoms...when exposed</p>
<p align="left">continually over extended periods of time."</p>
<p align="left">The </p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">Knoxville News
Sentinel </font></i><font face="TimesNewRoman">reported that Clayton Homes had
been awarded a milliondollar
<p align="left">contract to ship twenty trailers to Haiti, for use as classrooms
for schoolchildren.</p>
<p align="left">The Clinton Foundation claims it went through a bidding process
before awarding the</p>
<p align="left">contract to Clayton Homes, which was already embroiled in the FEMA
trailer lawsuit.</p>
<p align="left">But despite repeated requests, the foundation has not provided
</p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">The Nation </font></i><font face="TimesNewRoman">with any
<p align="left">documentation of this process.</p>
<p align="left">Bradley Mellicker, IOM’s Port-au-Prince–based emergency
preparedness and response</p>
<p align="left">officer, said, “The Clinton Foundation paid for the containers
through a no-bid process.”</p>
<p align="left">Imogen Wall, former spokeswoman for OCHA in Haiti, responded by
e-mail that OCHA</p>
<p align="left">never deals with procurement or project management.</p>
<p align="left">The Clinton Foundation did not build so much as a latrine at the
school, or at any of the</p>
<p align="left">three other schools where its trailers were installed. (INHAC and
two of the other schools</p>
<p align="left">had a limited number of pre-existing outhouses, which the school
directors saw as</p>
<p align="left">inadequate, while the fourth did not have a single outhouse,
making it unusable,</p>
<p align="left">according to the school’s director.)</p>
<p align="left">Conille, Clinton’s chief of staff at his UN office, acknowledged
in a telephone interview</p>
<p align="left">that the trailer classrooms “would never meet the standards for
school building” under</p>
<p align="left">Haitian or international regulations.</p>
<p align="left">Larry Tanner, a wind science specialist at Texas Tech University,
was “suspicious” when</p>
<p align="left">he heard that trailers were to be used as hurricane shelters in
Haiti. Tanner thought it</p>
<p align="left">unlikely that Clayton Homes had developed a mobile home that could
safely be used as a</p>
<p align="left">hurricane shelter, saying in a telephone interview that he put the
odds at “slim to none.”</p>
<p align="left">Mobile homes are considered by FEMA to be so unsafe in hurricanes
that the agency</p>
<p align="left">unequivocally advises the public to evacuate them.</p>
<p align="left">In an interview with </p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">The
Nation</font></i><font face="TimesNewRoman">, Clayton Homes engineer Mark Izzo
said the Léogâne
<p align="left">trailers could withstand winds of up to 140 miles per hour. The
company arrived at this</p>
<p align="left">figure through calculations, he said, rather than testing.</p>
<p align="left">But Tanner emphasizes that such structures must be rigorously
tested for resistance to</p>
<p align="left">high winds and projectiles. Clayton Homes’ failure to test the
trailers meant that they</p>
<p align="left">would not meet the international construction standard for
hurricane shelter. “It certainly</p>
<p align="left">would not be accepted by FEMA either,” Tanner added. Moreover, the
kind of anchoring</p>
<p align="left">systems used by the trailers in Léogâne—which rely on metal straps
to attach the shelter</p>
<p align="left">to the ground—“fail routinely,” according to Tanner.</p>
<p align="left">Two weeks into Haiti’s hurricane season, </p></font><i><font face="TimesNewRoman,Italic">The Nation </font></i><font face="TimesNewRoman">visited
some of the Clinton shelters
<p align="left">with Kit Miyamoto, a California-based structural engineer
contracted by USAID and the</p>
<p align="left">Haitian government to assess the safety of buildings in
Port-au-Prince. Standing in front</p>
<p align="left">of one of the trailers, Miyamoto looked doubtful when asked
whether, in his professional</p>
<p align="left">view, these structures were, as the Clinton Foundation has
repeatedly claimed,</p>
<p align="left">“hurricane–proof.” In the world of engineering, buildings are
rarely considered to be truly</p>
<p align="left">hurricane-proof, explained Miyamoto, who said he had never heard
of a wooden trailer</p>
<p align="left">being used as a hurricane shelter, let alone being referred to as
a hurricane-proof building.</p>
<p align="left">“To be hurricane-proof you a need a heavier structure with
concrete or blocks,” he</p>
<p>explained.</p></font></div></div>
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