<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>More mice out there than I thought. Is there a litmus paper maker's convention going on in CU I don't know about?</div><div><br></div><div>One of the things you notice about the rhetoric of tea partiers is that it's always ten seconds to midnight, civilization is always tipping in the balance, the country is always a hair's breadth from destruction, each day is the worst day yet, the sky keeps falling ever faster yet it never seems to get here. Carl demonstrates that it's not just the far right who see the world in Apocalypto-Vision, and who drive away potential allies that way. </div><div><br></div><div>As far as your questions -- sorry, I gave up Inquisitions for Lent. </div><div><br></div><div>@%<</div><div><br></div><div>On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:31 PM, "David Johnson" <<a href="mailto:davidjohnson1451@comcast.net">davidjohnson1451@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><b>To:</b> <a title="david-cu@nukulele.org" href="mailto:david-cu@nukulele.org">David Gehrig</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:31 PM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [sftalk] [sf-core] More dead children
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">So Mr. Gehrig,</font></strong></div>
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">What are YOU doing to try to slow and or stop the
assualt of austerity and neo-liberalism, and the ; harm, pollution,
death and destruction it is causing to Working people
world-wide ?</font></strong></div>
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<div><strong><font face="Arial">David Johnson</font></strong></div>
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Gehrig</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="carl@newsfromneptune.com" href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">C. G. Estabrook</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="sftalk@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:sftalk@yahoogroups.com">sftalk@yahoogroups.com</a> ; <a title="Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace discuss</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:40
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<div><pre style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><font face="Helvetica"><span style="WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">What Mike's trying to say is that not even Jeremiah was on an endless jeremiad. </span></font></pre><pre style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Or, as Carlyle's non-existent Herr Teufelsdröckh apostrophized Voltaire: "Only a torch for burning, no hammer for building? Take our thanks, then, and -- thyself away." </span></pre><pre style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I have to admit that at this point you're reminding me of the former leader of the unmourned San Francisco IMC, a would-be messiah who claimed to represent the "global justice movement." Th</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">is global justice movement he invoked always agreed with him on every single point - and thus when he spoke he claimed to speak in the name of the entire planet. And anyone who disagreed with him he characterized as "working against the global justice movement" and therefore against the entire planet. </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"> </span></pre><pre style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">It soon became clear that the global justice movement was a mouse that lived exclusively in his, and only his, pocket, having appointed him alone as spokesman.</span></pre><pre style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">I see you have a mouse too, Carl, and it's called "the left." </span></pre><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">@%<</span></div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><br>On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:41 PM,
"C. G. Estabrook" <<a href="mailto:carl@newsfromneptune.com">carl@newsfromneptune.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><span>Does the choir believe that the administration's military and
economic policies - assassination and austerity for short - should be
reversed? </span><br><span></span><br><span>I rather thought the choir lent
"critical support" to those policies. E.g., drones should be used
"responsibly," and judicious cuts should be made in "entitlements."
</span><br><span></span><br><span>Does the choir believe that the chief
magistrate should be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, including
murder and violations of the
Constitution?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I rather thought they would
not support a call for Obama to be imprisoned along with Bush in The Hague,
both awaiting trial for war crimes. (And they should be joined by others.)
</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think there are real differences
between liberals and the left. Liberals think Obama is doing the best he can
for the 99%, and the left sees him as the minion of the
1%.</span><br><span></span><br><span>There's a fairly clear choice between
supporting and opposing the
administration.</span><br><span></span><br><span>And I do think Obama fears
public dissent and resistance, expressed in action and argument, and will do
a great deal to nullify it. </span><br><span></span><br><span>He knows that
such opposition is the only real check on the exercise of US military and
economic power - other than the resistance of our victims.
</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mar 28, 2013, at 12:17
PM, Mike Lehman <<a href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>>
wrote:</span><br><span></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Carl,</span><br></blockquote>
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of stuff. You're preaching to the
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