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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>My comment below is addressing Mr. Johnson in China, whose facts and information is inaccurate. There are many legal details related to this trial that are only now bringing brought forth. I prefer to do something, even if its only to protest, than have a pissing fight online, which accomplishes nothing.<br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: karenaram@hotmail.com<br>To: <br>Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Organize!<br>Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:16:03 -0500<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry, don't mean to get personal but you know nothing.<br> <br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:31:56 +0800<br>From: ewj@pigsqq.org<br>To: karenaram@hotmail.com<br>CC: rachelstrm@gmail.com; peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net; peace@anti-war.net<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Organize!<br><br>
The Martin/Zimmerman incident is not like the <br>
Champaign Police shootings of young black men.<br>
<br>
Zimmerman may be an asshole or not. I am not sure.<br>
Most but not all cops and wannabee cops are <br>
indeed quasi-assholes. Not all.<br>
<br>
But clearly Zimmerman was attacked, and on that basis he <br>
has been set free, because of the self-defense argument.<br>
The cause of the dispute betwen Martin and Zimmerman<br>
becomes irrelevant when Zimmerman is attacked.<br>
<br>
It's not like Zimmerman just pulled out his gun and <br>
Oba-nam Style executed him because he was wearing a hoodie.<br>
The law permits people to have encounters and disagreement.<br>
When it erupts into physical violence particularly life-threatening<br>
violence, then a line is crossed. The situation was<br>
examined very clearly.<br>
<br>
Justice my ass.<br>
It's not justice that they are crying for. <br>
It's blood.<br>
They want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth<br>
They want blood for bloodshed.<br>
<br>
Well, actually what they want is Money.<br>
<br>
But since there isn't any money available,<br>
they'll settle for a few pints of blood,<br>
and several ounces of testicular flesh if that<br>
becomes available.<br>
<br>
It is really a disgusting distraction for a noble movement<br>
like Occupy! to get down and grub for cooties<br>
with the blood-lust crowd.<br>
<br>
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On 07/14/13 22:02, Karen Aram wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Rachel<br>
<br>
After today's AWARE meeting at 5:00, I will be attending the protest,
bringing a neighbor as well. <br>
Trayvon Marvin represents the many young black men from Emmet Till,
Jimmie Lee Jackson, Robert Hall etc., etc. murdered because of their
race, with the perpetrators so obviously being acquitted by unjust laws
and or decisions. <br>
<br>
Karen Aram<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com">rachelstrm@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 03:51:39 -0500<br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sdas-current@googlegroups.com">sdas-current@googlegroups.com</a>; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sdas-list@googlegroups.com">sdas-list@googlegroups.com</a>;
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:occupyCU@lists.chambana.net">occupyCU@lists.chambana.net</a>; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>;
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peace@anti-war.net">peace@anti-war.net</a><br>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hey
folks---If anyone has heard of another demo being planned, I'm happy to
send notices out, cancel this one, and redirect people there. I've
contacted a number of African-American led organizations in town and
can't seem to tell if something is already in the works. Either way,
I'm happy to help try and get the word out and then redirect if need be.</div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Okay,
here's what I got to start. <a style="font-family: arial;" href="https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create</a></div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Please
forward widely. </div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default"><b><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">No Justice, No Peace x Protest the
Verdict</font><br>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Sunday, July 14th, 2013 |
6pm-8pm</b></font></div>
<div class="ecxgmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Douglass Park | 512 E. Grove
St. Champaign</b></font></div>
<div class="ecxgmail_default"><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; font-family: "lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;'>"George
Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon
Martin, an unarmed black teenager, igniting a national debate on racial
profiling and civil rights, was found not guilty late Saturday night of
second-degree murder." </span><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; font-family: "lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;'>We
will stand together in Champaign-Urbana to demand accountability, to
stand against racial injustice, and to protest the verdict that proved t</span>he
injustice of the system. <span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; font-family: "lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;'>We
stand with Trayvon’s family and we know that we are called to act---to
fight for civil rights and for the removal of S</span><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; font-family: "lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;'>tand
Your Ground laws in every state, and we will not rest until racial
profiling in all its forms is outlawed.</span><span> </span><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 16px; font-family: "lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;'>Today
we mourn, but tomorrow we organize. #blacklivesmatter<br>
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Bring your friends, your family, your children, your neighbors. We
stand together as a community--all of us. Art, protest signs, candles,
and messages of outrage/hope/love/<span style="display: inline-block;"></span>solidarity
are encouraged. </span></div>
<div class="ecxgmail_default"><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 15.98px;"><b>Share on Facebook: </b></span></font><a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create</a></div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Rachel
Storm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelstrm@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I
think we need an emergency demonstration tomorrow in response to the
Zimmerman verdict to show that Urbana community members/activists/folks
in solidarity do not stand for this outrageous demonstration of
injustice.</div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Can
we plan to meet somewhere very public tomorrow (Sunday) at 6pm-ish?</div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_default" style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;">WHERE?</div>
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