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(removing <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peace@anti-war.net">peace@anti-war.net</a> from the Cc list - others please do so,
too.)<br>
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The admirable Carolyn Raffensperger, environmentalist and lawyer,
writes about justice -<br>
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[...] Serving as a juror (along with a dream about all the
animals of the world) made me decide to become a lawyer. The realm
of Justice is my land, my quest, my journey. The vast difference
between the Zimmerman court room and Justice is a travesty. We have
a body of law in this country that prevents justice. I am on fire.<br>
<br>
someone asks, with respect to the Zimmerman case, "Would you say the
verdict was technically correct but morally reprehensible?"<br>
<br>
and Raffensperger responds:<br>
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<b>A technically correct verdict that is morally reprehensible is
not correct in any Just sense. I do not believe in technically
correct verdicts that destroy the fabric of justice.</b><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/13 1:25 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:milogt@aol.com">milogt@aol.com</a>
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:8D04ED699F497AF-8CC-DD269@webmail-d270.sysops.aol.com"
type="cite"><font size="2"><font face="arial">A young kid did not
make it home alive because of Zimmerman.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Brussel, Morton K <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu"><brussel@illinois.edu></a><br>
To: E. Wayne Johnson 朱 稳森 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org"><ewj@pigsqq.org></a><br>
Cc: Rachel Storm <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com"><rachelstrm@gmail.com></a>; Peace Discuss
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"><peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></a>; peace
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:peace@anti-war.net"><peace@anti-war.net></a><br>
Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:54 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Organize!<br>
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break:
after-white-space; "> And two other responses (from friends):
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<div> " Zimmerman had no cause to confront Martin, and the<br>
police responder at 911 advised him not to. But he got<br>
out of his car to do it. Manslaughter resulted."</div>
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<div>"Racism lives. If a black killed a white under similar
circumstances the black would be guilty. "</div>
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Roman'" size="4">--mkb</font></div>
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<div>On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:31 AM, E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森
wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">The
Martin/Zimmerman incident is not like the <br>
Champaign Police shootings of young black men.<br>
<br>
Zimmerman may be an asshole or not. I am not sure.<br>
Most but not all cops and wannabee cops are <br>
indeed quasi-assholes. Not all.<br>
<br>
But clearly Zimmerman was attacked, and on that basis
he <br>
has been set free, because of the self-defense
argument.<br>
The cause of the dispute betwen Martin and Zimmerman<br>
becomes irrelevant when Zimmerman is attacked.<br>
<br>
It's not like Zimmerman just pulled out his gun and <br>
Oba-nam Style executed him because he was wearing a
hoodie.<br>
The law permits people to have encounters and
disagreement.<br>
When it erupts into physical violence particularly
life-threatening<br>
violence, then a line is crossed. The situation was<br>
examined very clearly.<br>
<br>
Justice my ass.<br>
It's not justice that they are crying for. <br>
It's blood.<br>
They want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth<br>
They want blood for bloodshed.<br>
<br>
Well, actually what they want is Money.<br>
<br>
But since there isn't any money available,<br>
they'll settle for a few pints of blood,<br>
and several ounces of testicular flesh if that<br>
becomes available.<br>
<br>
It is really a disgusting distraction for a noble
movement<br>
like Occupy! to get down and grub for cooties<br>
with the blood-lust crowd.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 07/14/13 22:02, Karen Aram wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Rachel<br>
<br>
After today's AWARE meeting at 5:00, I will be
attending the protest, bringing a neighbor as
well. <br>
Trayvon Marvin represents the many young black men
from Emmet Till, Jimmie Lee Jackson, Robert Hall
etc., etc. murdered because of their race,
with the perpetrators so obviously being acquitted
by unjust laws and or decisions. <br>
<br>
Karen Aram<br>
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<hr id="aolmail_stopSpelling"> From: <a
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 03:51:39 -0500<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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sdas-current@googlegroups.com</a>; <a
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sdas-list@googlegroups.com</a>; <a
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occupyCU@lists.chambana.net</a>; <a
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Organize!<br>
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> Hey folks---If anyone has heard of
another demo being planned, I'm happy to
send notices out, cancel this one, and
redirect people there. I've contacted a
number of African-American led organizations
in town and can't seem to tell if something
is already in the works. Either way, I'm
happy to help try and get the word out and
then redirect if need be.</div>
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style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> <br>
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style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> Okay, here's what I got to start. <a
moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-family:
arial;" target="_blank"
href="https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create">https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create</a></div>
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style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> Please forward widely. </div>
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style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"><b><font
color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">No Justice, No Peace x
Protest the Verdict</font><br>
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"><font
color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b>Sunday, July 14th, 2013 |
6pm-8pm</b></font></div>
<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"><font
color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><b>Douglass Park | 512 E.
Grove St. Champaign</b></font></div>
<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
line-height: 16px; font-family: ">"George
Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch
volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin,
an unarmed black teenager, igniting a
national debate on racial profiling and
civil rights, was found not guilty late
Saturday night of second-degree murder." </span><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
line-height: 16px; font-family: ">We will
stand together in Champaign-Urbana to
demand accountability, to stand against
racial injustice, and to protest the
verdict that proved t</span>he injustice
of the system. <span style="color: rgb(51,
51, 51); line-height: 16px; font-family: ">We
stand with Trayvon’s family and we know
that we are called to act---to fight for
civil rights and for the removal of S</span><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
line-height: 16px; font-family: ">tand
Your Ground laws in every state, and we
will not rest until racial profiling in
all its forms is outlawed.</span><span
style="display: inline ! important;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
line-height: 16px; font-family: ">Today we
mourn, but tomorrow we organize.
#blacklivesmatter<br>
<br>
Bring your friends, your family, your
children, your neighbors. We stand
together as a community--all of us. Art,
protest signs, candles, and messages of
outrage/hope/love/<span style="display:
inline-block;"></span>solidarity are
encouraged. </span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_quote">On Sun,
Jul 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Rachel Storm <span
dir="ltr"> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com">rachelstrm@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"
style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> I think we need an emergency
demonstration tomorrow in response to
the Zimmerman verdict to show that
Urbana community
members/activists/folks in solidarity
do not stand for this outrageous
demonstration of injustice.</div>
<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"
style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> <br>
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"
style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> Can we plan to meet somewhere
very public tomorrow (Sunday) at
6pm-ish?</div>
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style="font-family:
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
small;"> <br>
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<div class="aolmail_ecxgmail_default"
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