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<DIV>"Same question to you as Stephen. Do you think the videos he posted are
right when they say the Jews made up all that stuff about the gas chambers at
the death camps? "</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Of course not !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>That should be obvious from my last posting when I
discussed Norman Finkelstein's family history and how right-wing racist Zionism
collaborated with the Nazis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I will let Stephen respond to the info on his
list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In the meantime, you have NOT answered my questions
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>When, where and what time do you want to meet me to
a debate ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>AND, WHY are you on this list ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Will you state your opposition to the " War of
Terror ", Israeli Government atrocities in Gaza, Israeli murder of Gaza Flotila
Peace Activists including an American citizen, the invasion and CONTINUED
occupation of Iraq and Afganistan, undo influence of the AIPAC Lobby on the
Government of the United States ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So I answered your questions, now you answer mine
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>David Johnson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=david-cu@nukulele.org href="mailto:david-cu@nukulele.org">David
Gehrig</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dlj725@hughes.net
href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">David Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</A> ; <A
title=stephenf1113@yahoo.com href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">Stephen
Francis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU]
Online activism...</DIV>
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<DIV>I have once again removed Occupy CU from the reply list, as it is
not a discussion list. </DIV>
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<DIV>Same question to you as Stephen. Do you think the videos he posted are
right when they say the Jews made up all that stuff about the gas chambers at
the death camps?</DIV>
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<DIV>If not, do you believe that posting egregious antisemitic lies like that
constitutes anti racism?</DIV>
<DIV><BR>@%<</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Jul 25, 2013, at 5:10 PM, "David Johnson" <<A
href="mailto:dlj725@hughes.net">dlj725@hughes.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Norman Finkelstein documents the
phenomena that Stephen describes, in his book ; " The Holacaust Industry "
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>FYI - Norman Finkelstein is Jewish. His
parents BARELY survived the Nazi Fascist Auchewitz death camp as late
teenagers / young adults. They were anti-Nazi Resistance fighters in
the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. Their parents ( Norman's grandparents,
were not so lucky ). Norman's parent's were LEFT-WING anti-Zionists,
hence anti-racist Jews.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>The fairytale about the Zionists is
that they organized the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, when in fact, they
COLLABORATED with the Nazis in order to allow rich Bourgoise Jews escape
Nazi occupied territory, at the expense and peril of course of Working class
Jews.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>This is the REAL history of the racist
neo-liberal war-mongering Israeli Zionists.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>David Gehrig it appears from his
previous postings is that he is an " Israel Uber Alles " racist Zionist
appologist, and attempts to use the label of " anti-semiticsm " against
anyone who opposes the neo-liberal corporate AIPAC right-wing pro-war
Zionist agenda !</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Mr. Gehrig, if you feel that I am
unfair and / or inaccurate in my analysis, we can have a PUBLIC conversation
/ debate about it !</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>You pick the ; date, time, and place,
and I will be there !</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>BTW. My heritage is Pagen Wolfetone
Irish and German Jewish.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>My Labor Activist Grandmother's
maiden name was " KRAFT ", which they changed from the original " Kraftstein
".</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>My wife is a German National who has
lived in the U.S. since 1971. Her heritage is Polish Working class
Jew ( Mothers side ) and German / Polish Gypsy ( father's side
).</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>My wife's father was in the Polish Army
reserves and left Poland not until Aug. of 1946. My wife was born in
Stuttgart in 1954.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>I include this info so that everyone
knows ( who doesn't know me ) what my
MOTIVES are.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>You want to debate, lets Tango
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>In the meantime, quit trolling this
list and criticizing unless you are willing to confirm that you are anti-war
and anti-Zionist Racist ! </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Otherwise you have no reason to be on
this list !</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Call me and talk to me if you wish, if
you feel that I am inaccurate in my analysis of your
motives.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>I will admit if I am wrong
!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Will You ?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>David Johnson</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4 face=Arial>217-721-0583</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=stephenf1113@yahoo.com
href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">Stephen Francis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=david-cu@nukulele.org
href="mailto:david-cu@nukulele.org">David Gehrig</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</A> ; <A
title=occupyCU@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:occupyCU@lists.chambana.net">ocCUpy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:57
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<DIV><SPAN>It can easily be proven that Zionist's murdered 3000 people on
9/11. Thirty percent of the world's population is convinced of this.
The tide is turning. I'm not antisemitic. I'm anti
Zionist. and also not a holocaust denier, but a holocaust revisionist.
The world also is waking up to the fact that the Zionists have used
the holocaust to advance their politically and financial ends like no
others in the history of the world. Their have been countless
genocides and only the Zionists use for gain.... Period.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> David Gehrig <<A
href="mailto:david-cu@nukulele.org">david-cu@nukulele.org</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Stephen Francis <<A
href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> ocCUpy <<A
href="mailto:occupyCU@lists.chambana.net">occupyCU@lists.chambana.net</A>>;
Peace-discuss List <<A
href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, July 25,
2013 11:41 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [Peace-discuss] Online activism...<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I see your News Follow-Up site still says that "the Holocaust is the
greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind" and still links to videos from
the world's leading Holocaust deniers.</DIV>
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<DIV>Which is to say, you still have an overtly antisemitic
site. <BR><BR>@%<</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Stephen Francis <<A
href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</A>>
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<DIV>Hello all. This post concerns the issue of whether spending a
lot of time posting things on Facebook or local discussion lists is a
productive thing to do in the world of social justice and
activism.</DIV>
<DIV>Yesterday (July 24th)a staffer at the Facebook page 'Prepare to
Take America Back' made a link to a page of my website <A
href="http://newsfollowup.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>NewsFollowUp.com</A> <A style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"
href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/obama_body_count_obama_death_list_re-election_cia_gay.htm"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.newsfollowup.com/obama_body_count_obama_death_list_re-election_cia_gay.htm</A> concerning
a list that is known as the Obama Body Count...etc. The link
garnered 121 shares and 174 likes in just a few hours (see <A
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/facebook.html"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.newsfollowup.com/facebook.html</A><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">.) This is quite difficult to do as you
all know on Facebook. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Prepare
to Take America Back is a right wing conservative page that I actually
don't like, but at this point any credible political attack from either
side of the isle on Obama is needed. As Jimmy Carter recently put
it: "We know longer have a functioning democracy".
Anyway, </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Prepare to Take
America Back Facebook has about 120,000 likes and 216,000 people
'talking about this'. This is nationally substantial. It is
very encouraging to me that my work is seen by people in these
numbers. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://newsfollowup.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>NewsFollowUp.com</A> <A
href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html</A> enjoys
about 50,000 to 100,000 page views per month and a<SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">bout 10% of NFU viewers spend almost 600
hours per month on the site.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">.
But this is nothing compared to the 20 million or so per month
that Fox News has. ...but... from what I can tell, the
average Facebook post gets one or two likes/shares per post if any at
all. I (Facebook name Occupy Occupy) have about 4700 Facebook
friends and 516 people who 'follow' me and occasionally my posts will
get shared a dozen times or so but usually not and many times no shares
or likes. Even someone like the nationally known activist Cindy
Sheehan only has a couple of dozen shares and maybe 50-100 likes each on
her posts. My point here is that ... is it worth it to be spending
hours and hours online posting remarks that only a few people see?
I think yes is the answer, but only in the context of you being in
a sea of protesters doing the same thing. Individually it is
pretty pathetic, but social media on a world wide basis has made a huge
difference... ie Egypt, Tunisia...etc.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>As you can see from the front page of <A
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html</A> my focus
is on 9/11 Truth. I just believe that this is the most important
issue in modern times. It is the 'head of the snake'. There
is mountains of proof that the Cheneys/Bushes/Zionists of the world
murdered 3000 people on 9/11 which has ushered in the Patriot
Act/NSA/TSA... etc. 2000 engineers and architects of the
website <A style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"
href="http://www.ae911truth.org/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.ae911truth.org/</A> Architects &
Engineers for 9/11 Truth professional prove that 3 WTC towers were
demolished with explosives. We need to put these people in jail.
Working on anything else is important but doesn't threaten them in
any way.... they just keep on doing what they do.</DIV>
<DIV>Anyway, I'm done. Thanks for listening.</DIV>
<DIV>Steve Francis</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://newsfollowup.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>NewsFollowUp.com</A></DIV>
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