<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I've removed Occupy CU from the reply list, as its not a discussion list. </div><div><br></div><div>One of these days, Wayne, you're going to surprise us all by actually having the first clue about what you're talking about. But today doesn't seem to be the day. <br><br>@%<</div><div><br>On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:40 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <<a href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org">ewj@pigsqq.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Overt antisemitism is having the words "Death to All Jews!" on the <br>
banner of the website.<br>
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Anything not coming up to that standard would be sub-overt,<br>
maybe under-overt, although under-overt (under/over-t) seems<br>
to be a sort of flip-flopping position.<br>
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"Holocaust denial" on a website or other materials makes one subject<br>
to accusations of anti-semitism by those who are into that sort of thing<br>
and believe that there is anti-semitism lurking behind every bush.<br>
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Whether one is anti-semitic or not, one could certain learn to be at<br>
least mildly opposed to anti-[anti-semitism] regardless of<br>
one leanings toward semi-tism or complete-tism.<br>
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Actually the opposite of semi-tism seems to be holo-tism,<br>
and that checks out well in Mandarin-- yi ban zhuyi/quan bu zhuyi,<br>
and suggests that semi-tism is the tendency to do things halfway,<br>
half-assed, so to speak.<br>
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One would want to differentiate holo-tism (holotism) from holism,<br>
which it has being pointed out in some detail that the optical antipode<br>
of holism is reductionism, but I digress.<br>
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One could be holo-caustic, or semi-caustic. Those who prevent the <br>
actions of the totally caustic would then be holocaust deniers which<br>
seems to be quite a scorching fabrication to men of the cloth.<br>
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Regarding anti-semitic semiotics, I was looking for photodiodes and <br>
found a supplier from India with the word Swastika in its name. <br>
Hitler's handlers stole that symbol from the East and besmirched it.<br>
It is interesting to see swastikas (clockwise and counterclockwise ones)<br>
adorning various significant structures in the East. They are neither<br>
anti-semitic nor reductionist in that context.<br>
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There seems to be something afoot and afoul in the whole 9-11 matter<br>
some nugget of truth that continues to drive the truthers and their
cousins<br>
the birthers.<br>
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"Poisoning the well" doesnt seem to be very effective
anti-truthing/anti-birthing.<br>
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On 07/26/13 2:41, David Gehrig wrote:
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<div>I see your News Follow-Up site still says that "the Holocaust is
the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind" and still links to
videos from the world's leading Holocaust deniers.</div>
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<div>Which is to say, you still have an overtly antisemitic site. <br>
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On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Stephen Francis <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com">stephenf1113@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div>Hello all. This post concerns the issue of whether spending a
lot of time posting things on Facebook or local discussion lists is a
productive thing to do in the world of social justice and activism.</div>
<div>Yesterday (July 24th)a staffer at the Facebook page 'Prepare
to Take America Back' made a link to a page of my website <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://NewsFollowUp.com">NewsFollowUp.com</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/obama_body_count_obama_death_list_re-election_cia_gay.htm" style="font-size: 12pt;">http://www.newsfollowup.com/obama_body_count_obama_death_list_re-election_cia_gay.htm</a> concerning
a list that is known as the Obama Body Count...etc. The link garnered
121 shares and 174 likes in just a few hours (see <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/facebook.html" style="font-size: 12pt;">http://www.newsfollowup.com/facebook.html</a><span style="font-size: 12pt;">.) This is quite difficult to do as you all
know on Facebook. </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Prepare to
Take America Back is a right wing conservative page that I actually
don't like, but at this point any credible political attack from either
side of the isle on Obama is needed. As Jimmy Carter recently put it:
"We know longer have a functioning democracy". Anyway, </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Prepare to Take America Back Facebook has
about 120,000 likes and 216,000 people 'talking about this'. This is
nationally substantial. It is very encouraging to me that my work is
seen by people in these numbers. </span></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://NewsFollowUp.com">NewsFollowUp.com</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html">http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html</a> enjoys
about 50,000 to 100,000 page views per month and a<span style="font-size: 12pt;">bout 10% of NFU viewers spend almost 600
hours per month on the site.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">.
But this is nothing compared to the 20 million or so per month that
Fox News has. ...but... from what I can tell, the average Facebook
post gets one or two likes/shares per post if any at all. I (Facebook
name Occupy Occupy) have about 4700 Facebook friends and 516 people who
'follow' me and occasionally my posts will get shared a dozen times or
so but usually not and many times no shares or likes. Even someone
like the nationally known activist Cindy Sheehan only has a couple of
dozen shares and maybe 50-100 likes each on her posts. My point here
is that ... is it worth it to be spending hours and hours online
posting remarks that only a few people see? I think yes is the answer,
but only in the context of you being in a sea of protesters doing the
same thing. Individually it is pretty pathetic, but social media on a
world wide basis has made a huge difference... ie Egypt, Tunisia...etc.</span></div>
<div>As you can see from the front page of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html" style="font-size: 12pt;">http://www.newsfollowup.com/index.html</a> my
focus is on 9/11 Truth. I just believe that this is the most important
issue in modern times. It is the 'head of the snake'. There is
mountains of proof that the Cheneys/Bushes/Zionists of the world
murdered 3000 people on 9/11 which has ushered in the Patriot
Act/NSA/TSA... etc. 2000 engineers and architects of the website <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ae911truth.org/" style="font-size: 12pt;">http://www.ae911truth.org/</a> Architects
& Engineers for 9/11 Truth professional prove that 3 WTC towers
were demolished with explosives. We need to put these people in jail.
Working on anything else is important but doesn't threaten them in any
way.... they just keep on doing what they do.</div>
<div>Anyway, I'm done. Thanks for listening.</div>
<div>Steve Francis</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://NewsFollowUp.com">NewsFollowUp.com</a></div>
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